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1.6 Recoil Issue

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Yes see if i can explain this best i can. Basically play 1.6 for a while know what the recoil is like, and i know what my rates should be (I think?).. and i get horrid recoil on 1.6 in 800x600 res with a constant 100 fps and my internet is fine.

Best i can explain is the recoil is alot more than normal and the gun almost like lags after you shoot a burst.. spraying is impossible. Ive reinstalled, reset cfg, downloaded other peoples configs - no luck. Also this only does this when i join a server when i create a new game the recoil is fine so ya. Thanks in advance hopefully i can get this fixed.

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maybe make a mini clip so we can judge what u are talking abt
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online recoil and the recoil in "new game" is different...
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sounds like you didnt have your rates set up correctly - but then again you said you used other peoples configs.. sooo yeah.

dunno
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man JUST USE KSHAWPS
sometimes i think it's useless, clueless depending on what my mood is.
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It is actually diffrent. Best i can explain it is that the recoil is bad any sort of burst the first bullet goes on target the other two go haywire. And the models lag also.. like when i scope in it almost delays for a second.. same with all models. Very weird, see what i can for a clip.
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maybe you're playing with like 90+ ping
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Are you 100% sure your internet is fine, because this sounds like an internet problem to me. Use net_graph 3 and see if your ms changes rapidly. If your ms is going nuts then it's probably a problem with your internet.

This comment was edited at 02/18/2008 3:23 PM
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Yes lol. My internet is good. I will check Loki next time im in game. I dont think im not getting registry just in general the recoil is so bad i cant even kill people.
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I tend to get some choke, my cl_lw was at 0 but it still sucks.
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But also most importantly, I play CSS with no problem with recoil so. I also get recoil problems in Condition Zero and DoD 1.3. But CSS - no problems.
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maybe you are just used to the game called source, btw there is no recoil in source LOL
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No its not because of source. When i shoot two round burts and it flies in the air ya i think its the game. Not that much recoil in 1.6 either.. lol..

Basically its all about the bursts.. it does the same in DoD 1.3, the models almost seem like they lag, i scope and it delays. But i can play the game because you dont have to burst in dod, and CS is the worst for that.
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What are your computer specs, what OS are you running at, and do you have a dual core or quad core processor?

Also have you tried joining servers with around 20 ping or boosted private servers. Does it make any difference?
HI.
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if you ask me it sounds like a wiring issue, or if you're on cable, maybe the service in your area is overloaded...

i'm on fiberoptics with cat3 wiring. suffice to say, even though i get 5-10 ping in most servers close to me, i get garbage recoil.

check net_graph 1 and look at the readout from that. I'm not an expert on what that graph does, but I know that the green line is supposed to be flat, and the more/closer together the purple dots are, the better. I think.
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I'm with #17. I'm on cat6 wiring and FO connection. Doesn't mean I get LAN quality registration and recoil, its just the game.
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Well i mean this is just horrible. Its like you shoot a 3 round burst and the first bullet hits the target after that they go up to the left right.. its like wtf.
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stop saying recoil you sound like an idiot. it's not a 'recoil' problem.

Go in game and answer the questions people are asking you. Tell us your ping, does it make a diff in a priv. Stop being lazy and try to get the problem fixed. You've got people tying to help and you aren't doing anything except gawking and flapping your jaw... "zomgz recoil problemzzz i are rly bad" is all we hear and the more you say it the less peole want to help
;o
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I will look for good pinged servers. My old PC was just a Windows XP and it did it. I just got a new PC friday Windows XP Dual Core with the same hardrive and it still does it. I did notice though that my Internet on SpeakEasy.net is only getting maybe 2.2 MBPS... it used to get 5 MBPS.. but that does account for why the Source Engine games dont have recoil problems.
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Good call imported. ^
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this is what i use

rate 20000
cl_updaterate 101
cl_cmdrate 101
fps_max 101
ex_interp 0.01
ex_extrapmax 1.6 // makes laggy models smooth
ati_npatch 0.0 //standard 1.0
ati_subdiv 0.0 //standard 2.0

This comment was edited at 02/18/2008 6:38 PM
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Some things to try...

- When you're ingame make sure your server list is NOT refreshing servers anymore. click stop refresh after connecting to a server

- Try to disable friends and see if it helps. (friends has been know to cause a LOT of strange problems)


- Go to your games list
Right click Counter-Strike
Go to the Local Files tab
Click Verify Integrity of Game Files (it takes 5-10 mins .. a pain in the assss:/)
Click Defragment Cache Files (also takes a bit of time .. pretty annoying)

This comment was edited at 02/18/2008 6:53 PM
;o
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#2 ALL WRONG
The problem could be with cl_lw 0 #1, because it should be set to 1 or else it turns off lag compensation. Then on walls you wouldn't see the correct recoil pattern.

cl_lw 1
cl_lc 1

rate 20000
cl_cmdrate 100
fps_max 101
cl_updaterate 100
ex_interp 0
cl_showfps 1
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#6 has it/
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Ill try all these options when i get a chance. Ty.
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maby you just suck
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i actually have the same problem i know what you mean, sometimes if i spray it will shoot like 6 bullets then have a very tiny delay where no bullets will come out then it will continue
I like Turtles
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i actually have the same problem i know what you mean, sometimes if i spray it will shoot like 6 bullets then have a very tiny delay where no bullets will come out then it will continue
I like Turtles
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do you pull down when you shoot? this is something that separates source from the games you mentioned having problems with. in source, you have to pull down a little bit. in half-life 1 mods, you have to pull the fk DOWN. apologies if you actually know what you're doing, but most people asking for help with "recoil" really don't in my experience.

could be a config issue if it's not that. resetting your config MESSES UP your rates. default does not equal correct. downloading other people's configs would probably set everything correctly, but not if you got it from one of your friends who had everything set wrong. just humor me here and put in all the commands #25 gave you.
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listen to q_ball, put those settings in and then you should be playing more or less the same kind of recoil as anyone else.

be aware that recoil DOES move left and right randomly after it goes up, if you're noobish enough not to notice or smth.

AND its alot different from CSS regarding your post at #13, so you prolly just suck at controlling it, probably!
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Clarify something. Lol its not me. I havent played CSS in 6 months.. 1.6 in around a year. I know how to control the recoil.. played 1.6 for about 4 years think i got it under control. I had had this problem before - before it was actually way worse but then it was fine after i reinstalled Steam. And i do, as for recording in game its really kind of hard my PC is fine for HL1 Gen Games.. but i cant really run Fraps to record games and show you recoil because then i get actualy PC lag and it just makes it worse lol.

Ive gone from CZ to CSS to 1.6 to DoD 1.3 to DoD:S binges about a thousand times.. why all the sudden would it be a problem with the recoil. Nobody could control the recoil im getting on this because its impossible wether you pull down or not.

But i do have just about friends i play with saying its me, out of interest im going to have them come see it for themself.

This comment was edited at 02/19/2008 2:59 PM
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Record a demo and use startmovie?
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The properties of gun recoil within CS 1.6 do not simply change with different resolutions. The recoil is based on a randomized combination of about 15 set patterns which generate dynamic spray content. More likely, higher resolutions make the spray look different, and are probable more accurate representations then lower resolutions that by definition have less pixil density.
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Listen to #35 it's all math and actually their are only 6 or 7 different spray patterns..
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I heard it was 12
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jame^s says 12 =]
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#14
LOL i saw a cotw kid sprays at there toes and gets like 3 hs idk how LOL
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http://itsyouropinion.net/gfdemo.dem

The Demo is 2MB, so please download.. like a 2 sec dl.

Last guy was the best i could show guy with famas RR. Uploading spray demo.

This comment was edited at 02/20/2008 4:19 PM
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Another one, the end of this one is really the best. When ever i get shot recoil went haywire, and not to mention is was crap before i wasnt even getting shot.

8.1 MB Download
http://itsyouropinion.net/gfdemo5.dem

But downloaded for me 600 kbps

This comment was edited at 02/20/2008 4:25 PM
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lolrofl
i never read this signatures, do you?
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spray and move your mouse at the persons face there!
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any one can repost demo up there plizzz .. cant download from that link .. huhuhuhu ..
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go to source
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I have an old computer 1.7 MHz 512 RAM, 256/128 kbps (don't laugh, it's a Shittty country :D), and after 1.00 am (That's the only time I can get internet to work normally) there are no problems with CS, so I don't think that Internet and computer can be a problem to play CS.
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Okay, well I can honestly say that I play on 800x600 and know what you're talking about where it feels like it's lagging. The truth is, you just have to learn how to control it... It takes some time but just deathmatch and work on your recoil control because there's nothing you can do regarding rates or what-not that will fix this problem
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settings dont change the recoil

you must get the felling that means :

eg.
good ping
ideal crosshairsize for you
weapon allignment
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U havnt used any scripts?
my mate had the same problem
try unbind "mouse1" then
bind it again.
he's mouse1 was binded something like "+attack1; page up"

This comment was edited at 09/06/2008 4:21 AM

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