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60fps beter than 100

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I never cared about my 60fps in cs, but I want to change it. So I put V-Sync off and I get 100fps. But now, with 100fps (99 to be accurate), the screen is schokking a lill bit. Just like I have a little bit of lag. Wich is annoying and not OK

What's wrong?
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what monitor do you have
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how do I schokked screen?
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what monitor do you have?? and what rates are you using? =]
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cl_cmdrate 101
cl_updaterate 101
Rate 25000
Resolution: 800 x 600

Samsung Syncmaster 740BF @ 75Hz = 17"
ntel E6600 @ 2.4GHz / 2 Gig RAM / nVidia GEforce 7900GT



I really have no idea, I already looked up what the problem could be but still haven't found a thread significant to my problem
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How do you turn V-Sync off?
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In the control panel of your driver
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Exactly what does it do? Will it disable any options/features?
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it looks choppy cuz u set vertical sync off. #6/8 www.google.com learn 2 use it
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#8 V-Sync eliminates page tearing
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#10 But you have to put it of to get 100fps..
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Yep, for FPS games it is best to have it off. So that you don't get complications with latency when frames are changing.

Read more here:

http://www.d-silence.com/feature.php?id=255
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lcd's suck balls
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yeah but I still got the choke, anyone?
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if you are running on 75 herts on your monitor then your ingame fps should be placed at fps_max 76. It's smoother than if you were to put 101 because your ingame fps responds better to what your desktop is running at.

In #1 you said you get/usually get 60fps with vsync on yet in #5 you say your monitors refresh rate is 75.

=.=

This comment was edited at 03/24/2008 4:23 PM
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75 Hertz = 75 fps
100 hertz = 100 fps
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Yeah I've changed it to fps_max 75, but the choke has just disapeared a litlle bit
I even changed cl_cmdrate to 80 and cl_updaterate to 30/80/75 but the choke is still there :/
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put -freq 75 in the launch options .. if you get 60fps with v-sync ON it means you're using 60hz when playing

putting -freq 75 in the launch options will give you 75fps with v-sync ON and it will look a lot smoother if you have it off using 100fps
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The only way to achieve 100 fps; true 100 fps, is to:

Monitor = CRT capability to get 100 hertz or more.
Graphics card capable to handle the gameplay.
fps_max 101
cl_cmdrate 101
-freq 100
V-Sync can be turned on or off, DOESN'T matter. V-Sync 'on' makes the textures perfect without tearing.

Btw, the choke only happens when your monitor can't display 100 fps and it's only showing 60 hertz/fps.

This comment was edited at 03/24/2008 4:45 PM
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if you have 75hz, u will be playing at 75fps.
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so my monitors hz is at 85 so i would make fps_max 85?
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the game is terrible if your fps is below 100. don't lower your fps_max no matter what these jokers tell you, lcd or not.
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#23 has it. these kids think they know so much about the game but if you actually play with anything lower than fps_max 101 you are just handicapping yourself...the game feels so much better EVEN ON 75HZ if you're at 100 fps instead of 75.

of course, though, 100/120Hz is the preferred option but if that is unavailable then vsync off @ 100 fps will do the job just fine.

i've played on an old ass monitor with vsync off @ 100 fps on 75Hz, a newer monitor that can get 100/120 Hz @ 100 fps w/ vsync off, and an LCD @ 75 Hz with vsync off and 100 fps. the tearing effect you get is not that bad...you'll get used to it in a day or so and learn to ignore it and the trade-off is much better than not having 100 fps at all...feel free to try whatever you want but i and a ton of others i'm sure will tell you that the best scenario is to have 100 fps no matter what your monitor Hz is at. yes the Hz matters and you won't truly have 100 fps but the fact that the game is running at 100 fps just gives it a better feel even if you can't see all the frames it is producing.

This comment was edited at 03/24/2008 5:45 PM
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#25 is just repeating what he's been told so he can try to sound smart...but he's clearly never played 1.6 with 75 fps on 75 Hz vs 100 fps on 75 Hz. the difference is so obvious...

i even said you won't see all 100 frames, it isn't possible by any means. you will see 75, that is true, but your video card will be rendering 100 per second, making the game FEEL SMOOTHER. it may not look smooth (because there will be the tearing effect) but the game is much more enjoyable to play. trying to spray on 75 fps is way too aggravating to enjoy the game, where as spraying on 100 fps on 75 Hz is a little less aggravating...but still not quite as nice as 100 Hz.

go ahead #25, keep making yourself look dumb.

@#1: you are seeing a tearing effect. many people play with the same thing you're getting (looks like a horizontal-ish line across your screen every few seconds right?) but it's not harmful to anything and like i said, the trade-off of having that tearing effect is much better than having vsync on with 75 fps.

This comment was edited at 03/24/2008 6:19 PM
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#25 totally true, becaue cs even starts in a window when I put -freq 100..

This comment was edited at 03/24/2008 6:20 PM
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i have a 60 hz monitor, fps_max 60 for me?