Hi there, what all the community thinks about a new gameplay that we could add to leagues? I'm mainly pointing VIP maps because they have an awesome gameplay where you have to be silent, to walk with your team, to leave some behind at strategic spots. For those who don't know it, you can put more than one escape area so maps can be easily balanced.
We should have leagues where there is bomb/defuse maps section, and an other separated section with VIP maps. By section I mean two different leagues where you can register at both and it could bring a new gameplay rather than always planting the bomb and defusing it.
I came up with this idea because I got bored of CS mainly because of the repetition of the maps, the gameplay. I started to create some VIP maps and we're trying them in friends in our server so we can see if it is really a good competitive gameplay and we have some very positive views about this and we think it would be really great.
Well, if there is someone who wants to spread the word, go ahead, or someone who knows some people who can organise leagues and tell them that it could be a great add.
Post constructive comments, please, about what you think or if you already came up with this idea one day, share your points of view about this.
#2 is probably a troll haha, thanks #3 for your comment, and #4 i'm positively surprised about that, thats pretty cool, i would never have thought that. Hope youre saying the thruth :P
Even if I entertain this idea, there is one large problem; in regular de maps, once the bomb becomes planted, the CTs have the ability to take back the site and defuse to win the round.
Should a CT make it to an escape point, the round is over and there is no chance to win the round for the Ts. I can't see that being very fun if you can continually out-shoot your opponent to reach the escape point and not still have a chance to win.
it sounds pretty much like de_ cs with only one bombsite with no possibility of a retake and the guy with the bomb can't be killed or else the t's lose
#6, I completly understand your point, thats why I was a bit confused before throwing up this idea. But like i said, as a mapper, i am able to make maps that have 2 escapes but are more T sided like they have a lot of places to hide and wait for CTs while CTs have a lot of way to get to their objective. It can be 6v6 or 7v7, etc. rather than 5v5 if it could balance all things up.
#14 The guy is trying to express his ideas... not need to be a complete assh0l3 . It's in the Counter-Strike Section right? so its relevant, now stop acting like your the real deal.
#9 Personally, I don't think multiple escape points balance out the CTs being able to retake after plants in de_ maps, but that's just me. #10 Killing 1 of 5 to win sounds a bit too imba, imo.
I like the idea though... it's just that divito brings up a good point.
Maps can be balanced with buttons to open doors at some specific places so you need a lot of teamwork to reach them while the VIP pass them with some teammates, i dont know, just throwing this out, there is multiple ways to balance something, but yeah it would be harder than balancing a DE map.
#20, yes this could be better. #21 i'm 17 and you are 19 but you are the one who look like a 12 years old kid :P, well dont bother answering again please if you dont have anything to say. #22 exactly, It's not CT sided that much. Even if the VIP only have to reach an escape point instead of planting a bomb, as a T you only have one person to kill (with a pistol) and you win. I dont see how it couldnt be competitive. Like i said, i tried it with some friends and we all think its way better than bomb/defuse maps (A lot more teamplay). Well its our opinion but thats why im sharing it so that more people can have a chance to enjoy this unique gameplay. I respect constructive flamers because they can have their opinions but if you havent tried it, please say nothing.
maybe to solve that problem of the round ending the moment the vip reaches the extraction point, maybe you could add a delay, just like the bomb, maybe like he has to like reach the point, which you could make a bit larger and add various spots to hide in, and has to remain unkilled at the point for 15-20 seconds?
it would kind of make a reverse on offense and defense, where the terrorists have to rotate from the empty extraction zone, coordinate, and get into the other one and make the assassination
this idea would also make fakes by the CTs more useful, in that you could leave one or two ct's at certain angles close to the extraction zone that you ARENT going to go to, and then once they hear the terrorists rotate out, they could kind of sandwich them in with flanks to keep them off the VIP whos hiding in the other zone.
#24 great idea, i'm going to optimize my map and see how it goes. #25 Thanks, good thing that you are interested, ill post one in some days maybe, the time ill finish my test map for it to be some kind of a final version so everybody can try it and give their opinions. By the way, if theres anybody who wants to try some maps with us, you can always tell me if you are interested so we will have more people to try them (we have vent :P). #26 yep oilrig is pretty awesome haha :P
If you approach leagues that have 'fun' ladders etc you'll have a good chance. Don't know the ins and outs of ESEA but places like SGL / ESL have plenty of random map cups.
How about do it like L4D, where first the vip has to get to and extraction site, then after 30 seconds a helicopter comes and saves him. That way even if the vip gets to a safe area he can still be stopped within the 30 seconds similar to defusing the bomb :)
#30 Yeah its pretty much the same thing that #24 said. Indeed its a good idea, the vip have to survive for a number of time, hiding behind boxes, walls or teammates (hehe). I will try this in my maps for sure.
#28 and #29, Yeah fun maps leagues could be more appealed by this gamemode rather than esea or cevo, etc. But my point is that i want it to become competitive. If it can get some popularity considered as "fun maps" in the beginning, its ok, I just wish it could become competitive after :) .
#34 thanks, #35 You can put more than one escape point and you can make a lot of hiding spots to get to these escape points so the T's have a lot of difficulties awping you. (You can make hallways if you want instead :P ).
VIP maps in leagues
We should have leagues where there is bomb/defuse maps section, and an other separated section with VIP maps. By section I mean two different leagues where you can register at both and it could bring a new gameplay rather than always planting the bomb and defusing it.
I came up with this idea because I got bored of CS mainly because of the repetition of the maps, the gameplay. I started to create some VIP maps and we're trying them in friends in our server so we can see if it is really a good competitive gameplay and we have some very positive views about this and we think it would be really great.
Well, if there is someone who wants to spread the word, go ahead, or someone who knows some people who can organise leagues and tell them that it could be a great add.
Post constructive comments, please, about what you think or if you already came up with this idea one day, share your points of view about this.
Thanks.
Should a CT make it to an escape point, the round is over and there is no chance to win the round for the Ts. I can't see that being very fun if you can continually out-shoot your opponent to reach the escape point and not still have a chance to win.
#10 Killing 1 of 5 to win sounds a bit too imba, imo.
I like the idea though... it's just that divito brings up a good point.
it would kind of make a reverse on offense and defense, where the terrorists have to rotate from the empty extraction zone, coordinate, and get into the other one and make the assassination
this idea would also make fakes by the CTs more useful, in that you could leave one or two ct's at certain angles close to the extraction zone that you ARENT going to go to, and then once they hear the terrorists rotate out, they could kind of sandwich them in with flanks to keep them off the VIP whos hiding in the other zone.
you should post dl links to your maps
and yes, 5on5 oilrig is awesome
Good to see that a lot of people are interested.
#28 and #29, Yeah fun maps leagues could be more appealed by this gamemode rather than esea or cevo, etc. But my point is that i want it to become competitive. If it can get some popularity considered as "fun maps" in the beginning, its ok, I just wish it could become competitive after :) .
anyways...sounds fun
Shoot VIP.
T's win.
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