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The reigning ESWC CS: 1.6 champion lineup lost their auto berth to a former, now team-less, organization in this years edition of the tournament. Five months after the Paris finals, the players left the PGS organization to sign with esport behemoth Meet Your Makers. An exchange of less than pleasant words followed in the wake of the transfer and the split was not amicable. World esport player of the year, Filip neo Kubski, and the rest of his team mates cited they had simply grown too big for the Polish organization. The move to MYM made sense for them as they sought to participate in all the big events they could and make the sport into a full time profession. However, that desire may severely limit their chances to defend their `07 title in San Francisco later this year. Co-founder of Meet Your Makers Henrik Andersen explains, "Sylvain Millard from ESWC recently informed me that the berth won with first place will go to the PGS organisation and not the MYM team. As a consequence, our Polish players will have to qualify like they did last year". This means that the Polish players left their auto berth behind as they signed on the dotted line for Meet Your Makers. The right to send a team to the United States, to what is perhaps the most anticipated 1.6 event of the year, will fall to the PGS organization. Andersen, who is also MYM's tournament and event director, appreciates that there are two sides to this story. "Firstly I can fully understand that the ESWC want to give more value to the concept of an organization, like PGS or ours" he said. However, he does feel that the tournament organizer should take the explicit nature of the sport into consideration. "I was very disappointed by the decision. They disregard the situation for the individual players as ESWC happens once a year that, in my opinion is two life cycles for a Counter-Strike: 1.6 team. Bearing that in mind this situation is more than likely to occur again somewhere down the line," said Andersen . The PGS organization, at present, does not have a Counter-Strike:1.6 team. As Neo and company left they were quoted saying that they would not actively seek one out in the imminent future either. The tournament and event director also emphasize that PGS previously stated that they will not continue to support a CS team. Andersen feels PGS' non support of a CS team is a mediating factor that should favor the five players that won the crown in 2007. "Meet Your Makers remain adamant about supporting our team and we have put up a bank guarantee to send them to the States to defend their championship should they finally be given the opportunity to do so" he said. The problem, Andersen says, is he is unsure that the team will be able to qualify for the `08 event if ESWC does not change their mind about the berth. "The sad thing about the Polish qualifier is that it seems, of now, that we cannot make it. If that happens ESWC will be an event without the attraction of a defending champion and the storylines that comes along with that. We hope ESWC will allow us to guarantee that the champions will be returning this year," stated Andersen. In an emailed statement to Gotfrag, ESWC President Matthieu Dallon points to rule 11 in the rights and duties part of section 3.03 of the tournaments rule set. Section 3.03 was created and came into effect before the 2003 edition of the tournament: The club gives the following rights: Creation and management of teams. Property of their teams sportive results and performances. Dallon says that he very much wants MYM there at the next event but that the ESWC rules that apply to this issue are crystal clear. There is no room for exceptions. "No, not in this case. We would love to see the new MYM team at the next ESWC but this is not the PGS edition. MYM has to build their legacy again under their new organization," writes Dallon. Henrik Andersen offers ESWCs documented cases where national partners have failed to allocate the funds to send the qualified team to the World Championships as further food for thought on this subject. "The funny thing is that every year ESWC is afraid that the national partners will not make good on their commitments to the teams that won a spot" says Andersen. "This year, they already have the guarantee that the champions will return... if they allow it." Dallon does not fear such a situation and points to lessons learned in history. "PGS has until June 1st to confirm that they have a team to send. If they do not, we will face a situation similar to ESWC 2005 where The Titans from Denmark had dissolved as a club and could not defend their 2004 title. SK-Gaming had recruited most of that line-up and had to qualify to participate," writes Dallon. "They did and we hope Meet Your Makers will as well" he added. Quotes from ESWC President Matthieu Dallon translated by Taha Benssiba.
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I also read the article carmac wrote over at SK it is kind of odd but I get ESWC's postion but carmac also made a GREAT point.
"I do not understand this. Av3K can switch a team and will participate in the ESWC as the defending champion under the tag of Fnatic or SK or Mouz or whoever else. He can switch a team and will be invited back. Five CS players can switch a team and cannot be invited to defend the title no one else but they won." - that is a true point but
"Maybe its because of the way they are listed after they won the event.
ex
Counter-Strike 1.6 winners MeetYourMakers
Quake3 winner Maciej "av3k" Krzykowski"
That could be the reason they allow this.
if PGS has any respect for this "sport" or for the players that gave them a name, then they would send mYm to the tourny. stupid rule. stupid organization.
Good write up though BSL.
if a soccer/basketball/whatever team based discipline team X wins a title and next year, all the players have left to team Y, is there any federation that would give the birth/title to team y ? No... no committee in the world would rule that.
ESWC's sole "error" is trying to consider team based eSports like any other teambased sport...
Isn't that what everyone who views this site wants to see one day or another ?
GL to mYm
Why is this an error? This is a good decision by ESWC, especially with rules in place for this type of situation.
- think its idiotic to give the berth to an organization... they didnt play the matches, the five players did... granted they may have funded a team to travel, etc. etc. but they still did not have anything to do with the victory itself.
Except the organization put the players together and gave them an opportunity to play for them. The organization deserves the victory as much as the players buddy.
rules are simple and meant to be followed
I believe Poland only gets 1 invite, due to the small amount of top tier CS teams (unlike Denmark/Sweden for example). Furthermore, the KODE5 Finals take place during the ESWC.pl qualifiers... so they're going to have to miss out on one due to not receiving an invite.
like #2 said "they didnt play the matches, the five players did"; well, the organisation supported them and made it possible for them to go there. If you say that is almost the same as saying that a coach is useless because the players are winning the matches( not talking about cs anymore )
ESWC decision was the most professional one and still, they based the decision in an existing rule that palyers and organisations should be aware of.
An organization's name is usually just that, a name. When teams qualify for ESWC, I believe their flights and accommodations are paid for by ESWC. This means that really, the sponsor or organization had nothing to do with the team's venture and successes at ESWC.
The rule should be changed to include that the entirety of the roster that was victorious must return to retain the auto-berth. The property of results aspect of the rule should be abolished as it holds no water to any conducive aspect of the event.
#34 - Except, you're misusing your analogy. PGS lost 100% of their team members. I can understand if PGS only ended up with 2-3 players from the original. Please cite a team that qualified for the Champions league and lost their entire team, but kept the spot.
In the end, ESWC is sticking to their rules and will need to revise them for future events. They are still far and away, the best organization that eSports has.
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