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Counter-Strike: KIKOOOO: "changes will probably happen"

By: Luis Mira - Published November 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM EST - Writer Archive
Made in Brazil coach Carlos “KIKOOOO“ Segal has hinted that roster changes could happen in the team.
The 2006 ESWC champion had flown to Sweden under a huge amount pressure following Paulo Velloso's comments in which he stressed the urge for roster changes in case of a disappointing campaign at DreamHack WGT.

Made in Brazil was hoping to defend its Winter WGT title but the team's fans soon questioned whether this team was actually able to get back to winning ways after a series of mixed results.

The Brazilian team kicked off its campaign with close wins over k1ck eSports Club and ESC Gaming but went on to pull off an amazing 16-2 victory over mousesports to secure passage into the quarter-finals on top of Group D.

In the knockout stages, mibr tackled Meet Your Makers, whom it was hoping to get back at following an early WCG exit. But despite winning the first map, MYM came from behind to win the match 2-1 and stay in the competition, leaving mibr in despair.

Segal did not hide his disappointment to see the team being eliminated this early in the tournament and added that it was caused by tactical errors.

"We did not lose because of lack of skills or lack of will," he told GotFrag.com. "Our main problem was tactical-wise. Ever since the first day. Against k1ck as T on de_inferno, our tactics were not what we had decided. We were winning 6-0 and we ended up losing 7-8.

"In the second match against ESC Gaming, we played well as CT but as T we did not use some tactics we should have. We made several mistakes but managed to win 16-14. I argued with them before the game against mousesports and maybe that woke them up, they played very well as CT. They could have won 15-0 but they made mistakes in two rounds and ended up making it 13-2.

"I was told by the team (because I am in Brazil) that in the knockout stages each team had to remove one map. We decided to remove de_nuke and I only created tactics for the other three maps.

"Early today, they told me teams would not remove maps. We picked de_dust2 and played well, winning 16-10 despite losing an eco as CT. On de_nuke, I knew we were going to lose but not by such a huge margin. That is our worst map and the one we practiced the least. As T we could have insisted on certain tactics that were working but I was not there with them.

"Before the game on de_train, we had a problem and arguments between some players happened. Once again I could not do anything and I left it in their hands. They made a mistake in the pistol round as CT, which is basically three rounds, then made a mistake in a round that was almost won, having to make two ecos, they made a mistake in another round and then lost the last one when in advantage.

"If you take that into account, it was four rounds just as CT that they either made mistakes or gave away rounds that were already won.

"In my eyes they should be congratulated but they always make mistakes. Unfortunately they lost a game that was almost won and with that the chance to go to the semi-finals."

On the possibility of Made in Brazil undergo roster changes, Segal noted: "Probably. I think we will now go on vacation and start making plans for 2009.

"With poor results, changes are always welcome. They have played like seven tournaments, practiced in Sweden but failed to live up to the organisation's expectations."

Made in Brazil captain Renato “nak” Nakano had stated earlier this week that he did not believe any other Brazilian player could join the team and be successful, something Segal does not agree on.

"I am sure they are all in the top 10 in Brazil, but there are many players that have never had the chance to grow and there are always those war veterans that have already played for mibr and have potential," he stated.

"Even if I agreed with nak, it has been proved that the best not always win. Playing seven tournaments and failing to win a single one with major teams in attendance, there is something wrong! We will examine what happened and improve for 2009!"

User Comments

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is this guy really trying to dictate what strats the team he "manages" uses? He wasn't even a good strat caller when he played why the hell should anyone have to listen to him now?
#5shotGaming
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I knew it!
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I think making this whole "win or changes will be made" put much unnecessary pressure on the Brazilian team.
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wow thats just ridiculous. it seems like they are expected to 16-0 every team they play, he was disappointed that mouz was able to get 2 rounds on them on train. and honestly, mTw is the best team as of right now and theres no shot they would have won all 7 tournaments if they had attended them all. those sort of expectations are just crazy. lastly its been proven that keeping the same lineup and building chemistry makes a team better, not constant changes.
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He wants to win... nothing wrong with that.
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#3 He doesn't want to waste money to send them to these international tournaments all the way over in Europe and North America. It costs a ton of money to send these guys all over the world playing in tournaments, and if they're not performing, you better damn well believe he's got the right to put pressure on them to perform and make changes as he deems necessary.

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I think that "bruno" should be in mibr again and KIKOOO should play in the new lineup.
KIKOOO bruno cogu fnx bit1 can be great in my opinion.

and if not , they got a lot of options like: gAuLes ton cky Lance pava etc... etc...

good luck mibr.
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cogu for captain please!
what comes around goes around
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#7

kiko was never even a hands down top 3 player when he played...and he sure as hell was never an upper echelon strategist. This is why MiBR has always underperformed, they play extremely blandly and are way over-hyped.
#5shotGaming
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bitt was definitely the weak link in this tourny, but he's still good.
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cogu fnx bit stay for sure all are amazing players
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I think KIKOO is very wrong. He just say what he have seen on HLTV but he haven't considered the moment, what's really happens in a game.

I agree when he says that on de_train they could have won easy, MiBR made a lot of mistakes in important rounds.

And about the changes, I think it's really necessary to grow up Brazilian's scene because the same players play for Made in Brazil for many years. But I would like to see BTT, nak and cogu on the next lineup.
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everytime mibr loses they change their lineup its so pathetic...
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C'mon people, don't you see btt, cogu and nak are the best players right now? from some championships on fnx and bit are playing really bad.

#10 I really won't argue to someone that says that kiko wasn't the top 3 of HIS time when I know he is top 3 of all times. Just DL some 2006 mibr demos when they didn't lose anything.
*DEAD*mibr | cogu: para pava, porra :@
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kiko why not just join the lineup...? and just get bruno back....

or just keep the same lineup... and nak just started stratcalling give hime more time? theres no doubt that a new lineup will players outside mibr will fail due to lack of exp.

This comment was edited at 11/29/2008 2:13 PM
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I don't know why everyone praises fnx so much. I've never see him play that great. BTT seems to be the best player on their team whenever I see them play but people don't seem to give him much credit.

pretty much agree with #15 but cogu hasn't been playing his best the past couple tourneys.

This comment was edited at 11/29/2008 2:13 PM
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fnx plays good, but he's feeling like a star
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#17 fnx is the best player on their team but hes not been playing his top level atm he also changed his settings a while ago and started bleh :d

his stats went down
http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/stats/player/3782

cogu's went up
http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/stats/player/356/

This comment was edited at 11/29/2008 2:16 PM
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#15 fail
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yEAHH BABY mibr.br | Sprez you heard it here first kikoo nak fnx cogu sprez bruno as 6th
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changes are not necessary
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made in mistakes

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they dont need changes
-(Bravo)-Jan1uX
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GotFrag Prime!
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kikooo makes a good argument , mibr is an amazing team and they should perform amazingly every tournament but he has to come to the realization that this day and age in counterstrike there is SO MANY teams that can win. There is 6-8 teams that can win any tournament, mibr didnt play bad, they just came up short, top 3-5 is nothing to be ashamed of in 2008 counterstrike 1.6. Next year if the Americans really try to come back and Blank and Giants get better its going to be even more difficult.

Fnatic is a good example of this. They understand they need no roster changes, you just cant win every event anymore. They are still top 3 in the world no matter what anybody says. fnatic and mtw have won the most first places in 2008 than anybody and the fact is FNATIC Just cannot beat MTW. They just dont mesh well against them and they just cannot beat them.

bottom line:

sk is amazing
fnatic is amazing
mibr is amazing
mouz is amazing
mym is amazing
mtw is amazing

you cant beat all those teams every event. IMPOSSIBLE

This comment was edited at 11/29/2008 2:35 PM
"I never thought I'd see hacker get bent over the table on d2, but I think it just happened" -jESUIT
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bring ton back :)
H$MASTOR
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eStro is amazing...
and KIKOOO is terribad.

Yup, I dont understand why they cut ton in the first place. maybe a social thing ?
He was ridiculously good and carried the team when they still played with btt cky etc.

This comment was edited at 11/29/2008 2:41 PM
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#21

i agree
#8Ball #SKULL-GANG
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ton back.
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Lets see what will happen...
BANKAI!
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kiko needs to shut up and let them play, he needs to realize just because u stick 5 all-star calibur players together doesn't mean they'll perform. They need to let them play for a bit so they get used to each other. Sick of all these comments they make "THERE WILL BE CHANGE"
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are you kidding me? kikoo belonging to the 3 best players of all time?

hes not even amongst the top20, maybe top30, rather top50


well an talking about lineup changes? you've clearly seen this year that mouz mastered to be one of the best teams worldwide after two years of not being performing really well. just give the mibr guys them some time. changing the lineup will probably not increase their performence

This comment was edited at 11/29/2008 3:03 PM
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CS is very competitive now like football :

Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Bayern...
fnatic, SK, GamePlay, mibr, mouz, alternate, MYM, eStrO, Giants, BLANK, ATS...

#26 is correct, all top teams are good teams and is impossible win all tournaments.
cs 1.6 never die because it's like football, football is the sport's world number one for the competitiveness that exists in the matches and anything can happen between the big teams like happen in cs 1.6.
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KIKOOOO AND TON BACK PLEASEEEEE!!!!
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they need to suport another br team, theres alot of great players with no sponsor likes he said, a line-B should be interesting, btw, nak and btt are rly strong players
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26# you are right
like you said teams like mtw , sk, mym , fnatic, estro, mouses, gameplay, mibr can win any tournament cause they are in the same level

i think kiko job is to find the difference that makes nowdays mtw win ever tournament

and i think that the difference of Mtw is knowlagde cause all 5 players are really intelligent
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KIKOOOOOOO have nice nickname, thats all
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im not so suree that changes are necessary right now, wth ? kiko wants mibr wins every tournment ?
there are a lot of teams in the same level, cs in random now =xx
but one thing he΄s right ;xx "we had a problem and arguments between some players happened" if are someplayers causing problem, they must be kicked from mibr =/
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arrogant prick
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to many changes ... this will affect the team in a bad way ..
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Every thime is the same history, win stay .. lose change. Oh god, why the can't stay with the same line?!
mibr with teamplay and the feeling of " I REALLY WANNA WIN" , can win every team.
i hate changes.
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a team's problem is handled internally.
mTw.dk = mortal Teamwork indeed.
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no matter what u do.. this roster is so rox..! they need to focus in beat top3 team.. changing strategy etc wearever.. and like someone said "fnatic is the expample that all wanna." they never change their roster..and still be top3 in the world

take a lesson mibr...

pd: of course that paolo velloso is mad.. cuz is expensive to send ppl to play in another country..this is all the sh$%%
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They are all good players. I remember watching some matches where BTT, bit, and fnx just ran around inferno just headshotting with ak's. They are good, no need for a change - unless bruno replaces someone.
BLACKHAWK
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they'll never be as good as they were. they can change players like crazy they won't win a big tournament again
winner winner chicken dinner
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Lets see how this 'mibr b' thing will work (in 2009 we will see 2 mibr's)

Theres some good players that deserves another/new chance in the team, like batistuta, fallen, bruno, cky, lance, spacca, etc...

This comment was edited at 11/29/2008 4:48 PM
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MIBR is DONE.

That's it.

Sad but true
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he can't expect his people to win all the time.
we have to go back
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More MiBR roster changes, what a surprise.. what a joke.
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