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Counter-Strike Source: Fire in the Hole: CPL Fire for CS Source

By: Sean Casey - Published September 28, 2005 at 12:22 AM EDT - Writer Archive
GotFrag gives an exclusive look at the new competitive map under developement for CS:Source. Sean "casey" Casey interviews the map makers developing de_cpl_fire for Source and provides screenshots for your viewing pleasure.

UPDATE (11/29/05): The final release of de_cpl_fire is available for download at http://gotfrag.com/portal/files/622/

Each night when even the most dedicated American gamers are finally getting sleepy, the sun is just rising on a busy new day for two Germans. They’re known as the d00ds, and they aim to bring about a new wave of competitive mapping to the Source scene. Having successfully launched their first Source collaboration several months ago—the well received de_losttemple—Myrko and Paul, or Magikus and Stard00d as they’re known in the mapping world, are ready to pull the curtain on their latest project. And for a community yearning for wider range of maps, this comes as a welcome announcement. The map, soon to be released for public BETA testing, is none other than the classic competitive map, de_cpl_fire. I had the pleasure of discussing the project with Magikus and Stard00d:

Tell us about yourselves.

We both live in Germany; Magikus is pretty involved in gaming in Germany running the company ingame™ GmbH. We started mapping together with the Source-engine using the alias d00ds.com. Nevertheless, we’ve known each for quite some time now and Stard00d had experience in creating quake maps. Before Fire, we had already released the map de losttemple for CS:Source, already trying to create a balanced map that is fun to play.

How did you get started working on Fire?

After working on Lost Temple, we really wanted our next map to have a completely different style, and a more industrial look seemed to fit Fire perfectly. It was an interesting challenge to port the map to Source and create a remake with a remarkable Source look. After we decided to do it, we checked the 1.6 Fire and tried to imagine a big picture for the Source map, while maintaining the original layout and game-play. So StarD00d created the very first version from scratch in the editor within, say, 3 hours, which was a completely playable copy of the 1.6 map (except textures).


What was your vision for the map and how has it turned out so far?

The clear vision was to make a new and polished map for Source while keeping the original game-play of Fire. It was very important to create a nice game-flow for a competitive map without any barrels and stuff blocking players or ruining their gaming experience. That includes no dark areas, distracting textures, and low FPS. From the creative point of view, the idea was to create some kind of explosives producing factory with some transportation attached (road and train). It has two test-areas (the bombsites) and the production buildings in the center. Fire also had to look like the name suggests: hot and a bit red/orange themed. Regarding the results, a mapper is never completely satisfied with his map, but we think we’ve done a good job thus far.

When will the map be released for public BETA?

Well September 23’s HDR update with all its little bugs has pushed us back, but we look forward to releasing a public BETA in the next 1-2 weeks.

What other projects do you have planned?

When we work on one map, we tend to get ideas for 3 other maps, so at the moment we already have a lot of new ideas for future maps. As our next map will be an original layout again, we want to try some new tricks to improve the realism and liveliness. If we release anything new, it can be found on d00ds.com.

Any last words?

You have been d00ded! ;)

Editors Note: This map is pending final approval by CPL/CAL upon completion. Click on pictures to enlarge. More screenshots on next page.


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I have ran around in the map, it looks really nice, and the layout is identical to its 1.6 counterpart.
Really nice job.
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I CANT WAIT TO PLAY THIS IT LOOKS SO NICE
pO pimpiN
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shut up rez
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NO U SHUT UP RAILHO
pO pimpiN
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the only part that it seems to improve on over 1.6 is the fencing.
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Wow that looks nice. If it's as good as losttemple was it should be great.
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As #1 said it is nearly identical, which I believe is fantastic. I loved fire in 1.6, and I do in source. Looking forward to the official release of the beta.
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That looks amazing
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that does look reeeaaaallly good
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fire in my pants and cal's invited
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kinda in a way resembles look of the map comrade
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that looks awesome can't wait.
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That is one sexy map =)
What u want foo!?
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map looks incredible...
#EZ5

looks like a nice 15 fps map.. for me :(

BUTBUTBUT im glad that im not seeing random barrels or a broken down car in the middle of a bombsite.

This comment was edited at 09/28/2005 6:36 AM
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looks hot
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Actually shifty the fps on this map is better than any valve map. I think you will be surprised. These guys have done an amazing job on this map.
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Yep, the FPS on this map is incredible. Everyone will love it. :P
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fire is a fun map, one of my favourites from 1.6. im looking forward to playing this map, more variety will be nice.
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It's a really great map and it's been fun working with Paul & Myrko. They are very receptive to community suggestions and have a good eye for both looks and especially gameplay. The FPS on this map just does not match how good it looks; you will be surprised by exactly how well it runs. Until the public BETA is released, I recommend checking out Lost Temple for an idea of how well they can tweak FPS.
敬士
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I cannot wait to play this, looks great....wish valve would take note & get rid of the blasted barrels.
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good looks
watch like BIM, ring like BIM, burberry timbs pockets filled to the rim. WSUPDEN?
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wow, good job taking out the basketball hoops !

how else we gonna play 5v5 full court

jk looks awesome, too bad i dont play source
[b]im a nice guy[/b]
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This is what source needs. Maps that are exact copies of 1.6. I was playing source and I didnt even know the map was inferno :|
Erin Go Braugh
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Needs more barrels.
<3
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exact copies of 1.6...there's one little problem with that, not really anybody enjoys playing fire.

they should remake nuke, and we'd be good.
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as least the fence isnt horrible like the 1.6 version :D
Squeegee your third eye.
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#27 has a good point, fire is probably the only map that could have done with some tweaking layout wise..

cs is so backwards these days.

imo, i feel like vomiting right about now :x
eSports united ~ #eSu @ quakenet
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Nice map. Hope it gets added so we can take out prodigy or aztec soon.
haaaaaaa
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Lost Temple was the best map for 1v1 in sc and bw
IM BETTER
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OH SNAP!!! :D

My only complaint right now is that the map as a whole looks a little dark. I was actually ecxpecting the daytime setting like 1.6 was, so that came as a bit of a surprise. :)

It looks flippin' awesome though. and the fact that you guys were careful about fps loss is nice to know. I look forward to BETA testing this. :D
#teamidk // #quakelive // cs pro turned ql failure. :]
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That looks really f'n good. I can't wait to 'till the beta comes out. Keep up the good work!
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should have used the one that frk from hand made it was better

it was an exact copy of 1.6 but cal turned it away because it wasnt "sourcey" enough

you would think that after inferno they would change their minds...

at least its another map, i guess

This comment was edited at 09/28/2005 1:35 PM

this map looks amazing cant wait till we can beta test it
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#35, yep. I mean it looks like a nice map but thats all that source has going for it, good graphics. A big plus for source would be to have the boxes be able to be spammed through..
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I like the look of the styling on this map, looks moody and dark. Kinda like my bedroom.
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i dont like source,but this looks sexual :D
Life is easy when your mind is closed
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=o !

Esta bkn el mapa

hahaha
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Map looks great, keep up the great work guys!
#stasis :: CAL-M Source S4 1-2
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holy freholies!
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maps looks really really really nice.....nice work guys.
Hi.
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That map looks sweet! If you don't play source, you still have to admit, the map itself looks awesome. I'll be picking up Source soon ;) I decided to get quite the computer upgrade recently ;) Parts are on the way. Great work on the map guys!
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Lookds decent.
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Even though i play 1.6, i still have to say that it is looking great
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Well done
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they should finish de_nuke first
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#37 you CAN shoot through boxes...

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