Tuesday May 13 2008
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Dear CAL,

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You're actually still suspending people for not playing the right maps in preseason? Learn to pick better maps and maybe we'd play them in preseason. You're becoming more of a joke each season, and it's obvious to all.

Signed,
Me, giggling at how dumb this is.

P.S. Thanks for suspending me until preseason is over and giving me a reason to not play your awful map choices.
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Dear Kevin,

You're obviously upset. As we were 4th Marine Raider comrades, I will comfort you as needed.

PM me on irc for some support, friend.

Sincerely,

Brad Murdock
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just don't play them if they dont suit you.
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Blake with the logic bomb.
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What is the point anymore of trying new maps in preseason? I'm too old for this shit. I just wanna play good known maps and have fun, nobody cares anymore.
#gi #nogo #teamgeist
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I'm not upset, but I find it funny that we're the only ones that actually played a match. I guess everyone else would rather just not try having fun with the game and forfeit instead.
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lol they got suspended for being the only teams in invite to play their match.
Journey sucks.
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You obviously aren't having fun by being banned for the next week.
Just ff or play the map for fun, easy as that.
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But playing kettle isn't fun, you're not getting it!
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Playing rr2, though, is actually fun. Or any other map that isn't some stupid custom map with broken sandbags that cal decides to implement for people to quit complaining about maps. And then guess what happens? Nobody even plays their matches!
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I remember seeing a thread about this seasons map rotation, maybe you should have voiced your opinion then, but hey, better late then never....
«« #clan3h ⌐ #jetty ⌐ #scrimdod »»
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What's the point in doing that when everybody's opinions are probably neglected? I know for a fact a lot of people complain about wanting new maps, and what happens? Half the teams forfeit when they get it. I'm also certain a good bit were saying they didn't want to play this map, and what happens? CAL forces you to play it or you get a suspension.
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I agree that its silly to suspend for playing a different map when both teams agree on it.
«« #clan3h ⌐ #jetty ⌐ #scrimdod »»
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oh wow, we really WERE the only ones to play a match in invite
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way to ban the only two teams who actually decided to play in cal-I this week.

idiots.

This comment was edited at 05/09/2008 2:06 PM
[b]From the producer of "40's In my Hands and on the Scoreboard"[/b]
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High five, Aaron! ,o/
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haha the irony.

blow me shane.
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I'm not going to lie, I feel better about not playing last night knowing that I didn't miss a fun kettle match.
Journey sucks.
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Sir what is your profession?
I Hate This Game // #ProFound^
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QUOTE:
What's the point in doing that when everybody's opinions are probably neglected? I know for a fact a lot of people complain about wanting new maps, and what happens? Half the teams forfeit when they get it. I'm also certain a good bit were saying they didn't want to play this map, and what happens? CAL forces you to play it or you get a suspension


Kevin you couldn't be more wrong. You've known and played with me personally for well over 3 years now (XMVC 4 life) any and all suggestions from you to me directly would of definitely been considered, trust me. That goes for the entire community. But did you ever try to contact me? No. Here is the problem instead of working with us the majority of the community works against us. We have the map rule in place so people will play these maps that we are trying to test in preseason and some how provide constructive feedback even though, most of you will just complain and make smartass remarks that we can't take seriously. We are all you have to work with and you are all we have to work with. Why not work together to make CAL better? If the majority of the community could drop the childish shenanigans the league and the community together can make progress towards providing a better competitve environment for DoD.
#ePredators #high.p #wreckerexpress
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To be honest, I didn't even know you were an admin. :D!

I have no personal vendetta against any admin, don't get me wrong. Hell, I like all all of you individually. But some of the decisions that are made are just weird. We're the only team that played a match in invite and we get banned? Why not just give a general warning out? I mean, I even said about 5 times in every thread about kettle we were playing another map and no one told me not to! :[
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el oh el
Open your eyes .. #laudable
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This message serves as notification that a member of your team, Kevin Gardner, has been suspended. This suspension ends May 16, 2008. The reason logged for this suspension is:

Playing a map out of rotation.

This message serves as notification that a member of your team, Will Ward, has been suspended. This suspension ends May 16, 2008. The reason logged for this suspension is:

Trying to make calls on vent while his father beats him with a dusty shoe.



LOST ANOTHER ONE TO DITECH.
Author of 'From CAL-Main to CAL-Lecting Women' #AYEBAYBAY
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This thread is full of whining by someone no one cares about.

I just totally saved you a lot of reading.
·¤··¤··¤··¤-.,.-• DoN'T T··A··Z··E mE Bro!#@! •-.,.-¤··¤··¤··¤·
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I have yet to read anyone whining in here.
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Hey Day of Defeat invite players!

We are going to make you play really bad maps this preseason. I know you have put imput into the threads, I know you have attempted to figure out ways around playing these bad maps. Let me just put it straight. We dont care. We put the maps there for you to play, were helping YOU out!

It doesnt matter if you are the only team to play your match in invite, look at all the pub clans that played theirs in cal-o! You should be ashamed of yourselves for not doing what we told you to. We, as cal, do NOT care if you dont like the map. We do NOT care what you have said about the map. You listen to what we say. Have fun for 2 weeks not playing the other AMAZING maps that we have picked for you to play. Good luck!

Signed,
Day of Defeat Admins

PS- Have fun playing these maps before your "LAN" event coming up, I am sure the fights on heutau will be intense and you can learn something for that "LAN"!

This comment was edited at 05/09/2008 3:05 PM
Open your eyes .. #laudable
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Will could not have said it any better.

stealth, I love you, and I see where you are coming from. It is highly appreciated that you guys even bothered to play the match. We as admins are obligated to enforce the rules, and it has always been stated that you cannot play a map out of rotation for whatever reason:

QUOTE:
3.30 Team Agreements

Under no circumstance can two teams ever agree to play a match in violation of official CAL rules. This includes allowing illegal players, reporting false scores, or playing a map out of rotation.


I personally would have scrimmed RR2 and reported a tie, since both teams kept in contact about this week.

As for the opinions from the community, we do our best to try and apply all suggestions. It's really not as easy as it sounds. It's tough to distill the good suggestions from the smart-ass ones we receive.

When Brad "Plays for Keeps" Murdock made that thread, most people wanted to see cr44 in Preseason. People like Aether gave good pros and cons about numerous maps, and we really did take that into consideration (not solely based on what he said, of course). Then kettle was brought to our attention, which was a less-buggy version of cr44, hence that map was decided to be used in Preseason.

Sorry for the essay, I'll stop now and see what the flames look like. :X
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Someone should tattoo "CRY BABY" on Kevi