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Day Of Defeat Source: A Change of Seasons

By: Nick Titus - Published June 11, 2007 at 7:34 PM EDT - Writer Archive
The 6th Season of CAL brings changes to the game to hopefully bring better player numbers and increase competition to the league.
As we approach Season 6 in CAL, Day of Defeat: Source is handed a few changes. Season 5 saw the introduction of experimental 3rd party modifications known as the "Cone of Fire" and "Pistols" as well as the change in friction and movement speed. The purpose was to change the way the guns behaved and rewarding people for more accurate shots, but they also wanted to add in a second gun to kind of implement the 1.3 setting. When the programs were released they were met with mixed reviews, and both had their positives and negatives. For Season 6 however, these modifications are being left behind. CAL is going to go back to Vanilla source as it has been played prior to Season 5. Once again, this decision is controversial, and many in the community have express both praise and criticism towards the decision that CAL has made.

Facts on why CAL reverted back to their origins

First and foremost, CAL is a league for all players - players looking for a fun environment for competition be they a very serious gamer, or a casual gamer. It is important for CAL to maintain a good middle ground for both; a middle ground that promotes good competition, as well as an area where casual gaming is still possible. Unfortunately with modifications such as the Cone of Fire and Pistols, one not only removes the 'ease' of joining a league such as CAL due to the requirement to modify a server (which requires some tech savvy), but these modifications change the game in a way that makes game servers less accessible and much harder to promote for pub play. If pub play cannot be promoted, there will not be a pool of players to spawn competitors out of. After all, every gamer starts out as a noob, a pubber!

A major concern for CAL specifically was the Cone of Fire (or CoF) and the change of balance it made to certain weapons. The CoF seems to provide a good fix to make the 'feel' of Source and its weapons similar to the original Gold engine. However an unfortunate by-product is the changing of the balance in guns. Some have become over-powered while others have become under-powered. In order to maintain a better consistency in competition as well as provide the most fair and balanced game-play, CAL has decided a mod such as the CoF is not in its best interest.

Another loss for the up-and-coming season 6 is the removal of many custom maps. CAL always has, and will, support custom mapping and mappers who desire to make a balanced, attractive map for competitive play. There is a line that needs to be drawn as to what maps, and how many, are needed. On top of being a hassle, and another 'tech savvy' issue for league play, custom maps such as Anzio+ are unnecessary. The original stock Anzio that is provided is already a very good map, if not one of the best. The purpose of Anzio+ was to hopefully better frame rates (Anzio is one of the larger, more taxing maps in Source) as well as get rid of what some believe to be 'undesirable' locations. But it is not up to CAL to provide such handicaps to those who have systems that under-perform this game. Also, a map such as Anzio+ is not as easily accessible or widely known as original stock Anzio - and the issue of promoting ease-of-access to CAL and the promotion of league-play is hindered.

What is staying with CAL this season is the changed friction and stop-speed settings. These settings have perhaps the most immediate positive influence on how weapons, movement, and their movement penalties behave. What makes it even better is the ease of change in the server configuration itself. The friction and stop-speed settings require no installation of a 3rd party mod. Very nice!

Ultimately CAL is trying to distance itself from relying too heavily on 3rd party modifications and focusing on the stock game itself. 3rd party modifications have to be redone every single game update. This is not only a hassle on the developers of these mods, but it also disrupts the league at any given time that these updates occur (which tend to happen on Wednesday match nights no less!). By removing 3rd party mods and relying only on the developers of the game itself (Valve) the consistency from season-to-season can be established and fluid transition into league play for casual, or competitive, competition can occur. The Day of Defeat: Source division has seen so many changes over the past couple of seasons that it's time to settle down and set the groundworks so the league can grow and competition can prosper.

User Comments


real nice article.
im looking forward into playing s6!!
#scrimdods #151
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It's a shame
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Its a really good move by CAL imo to do this. We need more ORIGINAL custom maps built for competition. Not remade versions of current stock maps. I have been playing DODS since day1 and hope this game continues to grow and that means catering to the "pubbers" who are almost ready to make the jump to competition,

People need to stop crying about source and either play it or leave. The Euros play it stock and we should too.

This comment was edited at 06/11/2007 8:46 PM
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DoD:s The League For the Casual Gamer...

cof didnt make weapons overpowered or underpowered thats all opinion not fact your article is trash. the fact that cal is removing cof mod, because there worried about dods being updated makes me laugh. It seems to me like a changing of the gaurd in the cal office but thats jus speculation on my part(i have no idea).

Edit: if your going to move all of main to invite call it what it is main, thanks.

This comment was edited at 06/11/2007 8:46 PM
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CAL admins haven't changed in 3 seasons now. CAL lost some division managers, but replaced them with ones already as admins and just hired up 2 'regular' admins. The overall 'guard' though, hasn't changed much at all. And how come no one is mad at Kalas? He's a part of this too.

This comment was edited at 06/11/2007 9:02 PM
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LMAO. Source is going down the tubes.
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Bring back my CoF
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no pistiez = no pp = no cool movez
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I think we could of got one more season in with the cof plugin without their being an update. The cof definitely made the game more competitive and allowed the better players to widen the gap. I hope CAL has some inside intelligence with valve because if dod:s isn't updated this season then I am gonna be pissed.

This comment was edited at 06/11/2007 11:25 PM
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now we need to implement 15 min halves.
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I agree on the halves. 20 is just so freaking long.
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what #9 said. im pretty sure i said at the beginning of last season . "if you implement the cof plugin you are COMMITTED to using it". low and behold the glorious cal admins decide to drop it because they have no idea how to run the game. keep up the splendid job morlock. keep living up to the shoes of a typical source game manager ala dmiller and jstep
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I like vanilla, always have and always will. The game was intended to be played as valve released it to be. If they release a cof, then fine. As long as everyone is on the same playing field.
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i agree with tragik i think we need to go back to o/im/m since invite is basically main now
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No need, just go Open/Main.
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Changes are good but unless your admins actually get out and help new teams learn CAL and lobby teams to join you're still stuck where you are. Elite club 4tl.

i dont understand why people constantly complain about cof. play the game the way it was made. I'm sure if we all went to 1.3 and complained for them to change something wed be laughed out of the community. So why are we letting them dictate ours? The euros have a much larger community and is more successful. If valve releases an update on the cof then i am fine with it. But getting someone to create a plug in is ridiculous. For once id like people to stop complaining and just play the game how it is. oh and truth obviously the cof didnt help this season for "the better players" ;).

This comment was edited at 06/12/2007 1:21 PM
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When I see myself and everyone else on my team performing each gun without any problems, I wonder "hmm...was the CoF necessary?"

The only changes that seem to have been made in how each of us play is the distances we put ourselves between our opponents. e.g. Rifles are a little closer, not 200 yards away, heavies stay more concealed, not wantonly firing out in the open.

Turns out the game gets a lot more intense this way and you have to play a little smarter because guns like the heavies can't laser-beam their way into the upper church loft, and rifles can't sit and corner camp for 20 minutes in the same spot. Not to mention the sniper can actually get a little distance power again to help clear out those rifles. Better yet, is they end up using their iron sights on those really long distance shots. Imagine that! USING EVERY FACET OF YOUR WEAPON! Wow, that seems so gay doesn't it?!?

The game ends up being a lot more challenging and requiring each class to work together better imo.

I'm sorry you guys like your own personal glory tracks though, it's a shame. Perhaps you should play Quake instead? I know the rest of us who enjoy this game would appreciate it if you just...left. I wouldn't miss you.

This comment was edited at 06/12/2007 2:18 PM
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I honestly never understood what you 'good' players had to complain about because the good players are good with/without the CoF. The only thing is you just have to adjust a little bit to the difference in engine and feel of the game. Also, there's just a little difference in how the guns work but the functionality of each is pretty much the same in Source as it is in Gold. It's like you're vehemently against learning the game that you've convinced yourself of every fault there could be and shut yourself off of the fact that it's different enough that you have to relearn it. CS 1.6 players do the exact same thing with CSS. It usually takes them about a season of serious hard work to finally get it down, and the way most of us play this game we don't even put in a fraction of the time 1.6 players put in to source. It's like you just give up too easily.

And as far as specific 1.3 players go, I'm surprised they still hold on to this pipe dream of bringing 1.3 back. The whole gold engine is going out the door on all fronts. 1.6 is losing teams by the thousands and guess where they are going? Source. Right now is a perfect time to capitalize on the fact that the industry standard of computer power is on the rise, meaning Source becomes an easier game on systems, meaning more people can and will play the games. And if you want to be a competitive gamer, a smaller community is the best way to make a name for yourself and become successful. If you think you are going to go and play CSS or CS 1.6 and make money off of LAN's you're going to be in a world of hurt. The game is so huge that only the people who basically played it from day 1 have gotten anywhere. Maybe I just believe sometimes being a Big Fish in a little pond isn't a bad thing. Right Cypher?
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cof or non cof isnt the irritating part for me....its the having to go through learning stock source, then cof and now stock source again....

oh well....one good thing did happen this season which is the removal of stupid maps like anzio+
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Well fortunately #20, there is no longer a need to 'relearn' the game. That's exactly why this happened, because anyone who has vanilla who wants to get into CAL had to 'relearn' the game, now only people who were in CAL for season 5 had to 'relearn'. I personally think that's a better way to go about it. It's unfortunate that everyone playing in season 5 had to be guinea pigs but that stage is over now.

This comment was edited at 06/12/2007 3:27 PM
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this is all assuming ppl are still interested in joining cal dods
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Currently only one season of source has been played with CoF. There have been more people in and out through the other seasons than in s5 - so, assuming people came BACK, or people JOIN, you aren't relearning the game unless you participated in s5 - which, there are more people who haven't given the numbers of the player-base in previous seasons, this season, and last season.
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Again, for a lobby group. All the CAL admins are useless right now. CAL BO runs itself, there's no need for so many of you kids. GTFO and do some real work.
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Ps admins don't nuke my post like you do every time, and realize this is a forum made for discussion and I am once again not breaking any of the site rules. I tell it like it is, not some fantasy world like some of you want to believe. Grow some thicker skin on a place like gotfrag for once.

I have to laugh at this terrible game and the circus it has always been and still is. It is not a competitive game, and was specifically designed not to be! When are you people going to realize it? It was made by the pubber devs for pubbers so it could appeal to a larger audience, couple that with leeching off the day of defeat name, valve stood to make alot of money. I HIGHLY doubt valve will update dods as they are working on the release of portal/hl2 e3/tfc2, and then I'm sure they will shift to css. It makes no bussiness sense for them to waste time/money fixing a game that was not accepted by the VAST majority of the community and was a complete failure from launch. Case and point I remember when 1.3 would have 20k people pubbing and their were 3000 players actively playing in leagues. Now 1.3/source combined aren't even close to half of that. Valve already squandered the chance of this game being a success (and killed off dod 1.3's success) as people have moved on. If source would have taken off from launch with the numbers of players that were around we would be sitting pretty (with 1 large community, on a new engine with new graphics and new life) but it didn't and it stands NO chance now. Valve and no one else killed 1.3 AND source. So please stop hoping for all these great things that are not going to come. Play the game for fun wether it's 1.3 or source, whichever you enjoy.

Not that I care but just some food for thought: What will the euros think if valve updates dods and cators to the american wants with pistals/cof/ect. Because with an offical update they wouldn't be able to play what they are playing now, which seems like it's a success.

This comment was edited at 06/12/2007 6:34 PM
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#25 no one has nuked any posts in this thread.
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Looks like the cal admins actually got something behind the foreheads, which is more than can be said about some people who have posted above :)

anyway nice to see that both the european community and the american community are playing the same game again , which is a must if there is to be hope for a international dod:s lan in the future

"What will the euros think if valve updates dods and cators to the american wants with pistals/cof/ect. Because with an offical update they wouldn't be able to play what they are playing now, which seems like it's a success."

I think many people would be against it (like we were against source when it didnt turn out to be 1.3) but in the end we would just live with it and continue playing. But lets be real here, valve aint going to do that :P

pol.ak (WHY IS HIS NAME NOT ALLOWED ON GOTFRAG? DID HE CHEAT?) sucks
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Umm, I think it's blocked because [b]p[/b]olak can be used as a racial slur or derogatory title for a person of Polish descent.
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Just like Sears_ requires an underscore after his name because calling someone a "sears_" is one of the worst insults you can call a gamer.



lolamiright<3

This comment was edited at 06/12/2007 10:17 PM
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likeomgsofunny!

actually it's cause some dbag Lewis Sears has like 4 inactive accounts and one of them is "Sears", plus the underscore is totally cute.
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people still play this game?
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Good for both NA and European scene for sure. Looking forward on some international LAN!
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people still play this game?
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People still play this game?
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I'm sorry, but the idea of an international LAN for DOD:S makes me giggle.
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(as someone who has no idea what has happened in dod over the past 18 months) what i dont understand is why/how everyone was forced to play DoD:S with the 1.3 changes

would it really have been impossible to have both the regular DoD:S league continue from season 4 to season 5, and allow a standalone 1 division DoD:S-CoF league at the same?

it seems to me that the way things were done a lot of unnecessary resentment might have been caused, first with the CoF-hating natural-DoD:S lovers being forced to play with CoF, and now with CoF supporters having their modification (which the developers worked very hard on im sure) dropped.

...but keep in mind this is the opinion who hasnt read anything on the subject for more than a year
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DoD:S international LANs.. heh.. 1.3 was leaps and bounds ahead of where this game is as far as LAN status goes w/ large organizations, and even that was too distant from the status required for an organization to put up a worthwhile tournament of international status. The Summer CPL '05 was about as close as either game would ever get to that.

A CoF plug-in isn't what this game has needed. Rather, the game needs an overhaul altogether. It needs the patches that have been applied to CS:S as far as netcode and hitbox adjustments go. The gun scripts need to be redone to better balance out the weapons. And most importantly, the left corner glitch needs to be corrected. I think the CoF causing players to be killed a lot easier instigated the problem many players made the glitch to be compared to prior seasons.

PS, sofaking is truly a teddy bear acting as a lion, and I will be suffocating your entire team in their sleep while their drunk this coming weekend, Jason. THANKS!
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"would it really have been impossible to have both the regular DoD:S league continue from season 4 to season 5, and allow a standalone 1 division DoD:S-CoF league at the same?"

#36, splitting the community isn't exactly the best idea when you have a fledgling community such as ours
#internet.explorers #penos #clanmt

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