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By: George Kaspiris - Published November 25, 2005 at 5:23 PM EST - Writer Archive
MTV will be airing From Game to Fame: The CPL World Tour Finals on Saturday, November 26th at 8:00PM ET/PT and 7:00PM CT/MT.
MTV will broadcast the television special "From Game To Fame: The CPL World Tour Finals" on Saturday, November 26, 2005 at 8:00PM ET/PT and 7:00PM CT/MT. This is the first USA television broadcast of a Grand Finals e-sports event. Both MTV and CPL have been collaborating on the production of this show.


http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/monthly_features/gaming_week_05/cpl.jhtml

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any word on how good of ratings the online CPL final thing got?
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they must have been good for MTV to decide to air it live #1

Anyways, good news.
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cool, i'll watch it again.
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I previewed the show this morning at the MTV studios, it's been edited for television. It's very good.

This comment was edited at 11/25/2005 8:40 PM
Angel Munoz
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yea can't wait to see it on tv.
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SHAZAM!
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Awesome.
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Awesome news! Can't wait to see it.
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gooo e-sports!!!

This comment was edited at 11/25/2005 7:34 PM
#ricochet
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Everyone tune in. Hopefully mtv doesn't edit too much, i don't want to see e-sports in a bad light.
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Cool=]
#LANbeforeTIME :D
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i guess it aint goona be on MTV-europe ha ? :\
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Wow, gaming literally just blew up out of no where... i can't believe all this happened so quick. I'm happy for angel and the cpl gang, they've been wanting this so badly for so long.
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wow thats awesome
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yay!

Saturday at 8... funny considering the only people that would be home are gamers since they dont ever leave the house, thats a slap in the face MTV
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Good to here angel, I definitely plan on tuning in. I actually thought it was last saturday and was waiting to watch it lol.
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n1.~
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Hope I'm in it ;)
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awesome, ill be watching =)
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doesn't matter what time slot the damn thing gets.

but 8PM is actually before people start going out so some might catch it.

Regardless this is HUGE for eSports. exposure like this will lead to more exposure and more exposure = more sponsorships which we desperately need.

Congrats to Mr. Munoz for getting him closer to reaching his goal which is everyone's goal..

and thank Fatal1ty and vo0 for putting on some awesome matches. I just wish vo0 wasn't so uptight.
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quote: "i guess it aint goona be on MTV-europe ha ? :\ "

MTV will let us know after the USA broadcast if it will air at a later date on MTV Europe and MTV Asia.
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This half hour broadcast is a dream come true for me. Please tune in as it supports the entire e-sports concept and its readiness for television broadcast.

This comment was edited at 11/26/2005 12:34 PM
Angel Munoz
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also see http://www.mtv.com/onair/schedule/index.j..

"Game to Fame: The CPL World Finals
32 People from all over the world will travel to NYC for the semi finals and 2 people will go to the finals. The winner will go home with $500,000. On November 14th at Web2Zone in downtown Manhattan, 32 players will compete for the final match. CPL will create the event, MTV Overdrive will cover it LIVE while the video team captures footage to be part of the 30 min. TV special. The first part of the special gives you the preview of how the gamers got here. Brief recap of the world tour, the culture, the winners, the losers, the game play, the standings, the anticipation and the sport of gaming.
date Sat 11/26

time 8:00 PM"
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I hope this turns into what poker turned into. Has basically the same elements even more of a forefront considering all kids play video games.
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Plus games are so much more fun to watch then poker.

I am suprised that they are only airing it once though...

This comment was edited at 11/26/2005 2:29 PM
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fatal1ty made a huge mistake man, he wore a sweater over his team shirt. His sponsors would of gotten major coverage. What was he thinking.
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yea it was kinnda wierd that he wore a sweater...
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i noticed that also :/
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It was cold in the Nokia Theater due to the raging, gusting snow storm outside.

It's called warmth. He wore the fleece for warmth.

Or was it...? Maybe he WAS sending a message to his sponsors that they need to pony up more dough if they want to be seen on camera. If I were him, I would up his rate.

Either way, our robot masters will never let us know the truth...how could they?

Maybe the blue pill wasn't such a bad idea...

The show needed to be an hour long. More from the American Gamer girlz, too...

This comment was edited at 11/27/2005 1:31 AM
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...#32 wins weird post of the year award
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yeah 32, too bad you completely looked over the fact that fatal1ty has a team sweater as well as a t-shirt. Instead of wearing a plane black sweater, he could of used his team sweater. It was a stupid move.

and for some reason if i read your post backwards it makes more sense.

This comment was edited at 11/27/2005 3:16 AM
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<rant>
I think its great that CPL has recieved some exposure on MTV.

As far as fatal1ty, everybody makes mistakes.

Comparing the difference to Poker is somewhat poor. It doesnt matter if its CS PK or whatever current video game you want to compare it to. The current setup for SPECTATORS in gaming does NOT lend itself to a wide ranging audience.

Your example is poker, tell me a video game where the spectators can follow the expressions of all the players involved, see what they see (which is not moving at the speed of light) is quickly understandable by a non player, and lends itself to TV audience? While I have enjoyed watching my kids play CS and can follow along in HLTV, and have a grasp of the game, and know personally a large number of players. I have to say with the current e-sports setup, it will never get as big as Texas Holdem. Which has just come on the last few years, has more main stream exposure than all the video games combined.

Another minus in what I have seen is the issue with the fact that 90% of the players are less than 20.

Another minus is what you are seeing in other threads with payouts at lans. I have told my kids that if they dont pay out right there at the tourney, its not worth going to. The reason for that is if your lucky, maybe in what 6 months to a YEAR if at all, you MAY get your money. And while I commend Angle and the CPL for attempting to bring some larger ligimitacy to gaming, even their contract (for CPL tourneys) is designed to screw the players if their team falls apart FOR ANY REASON.

BTW: Gosu still hasn't received his check ...

I believe the next step of evolution that is needed, if Professional E Sports is to grow beyond the 16 year old mentality that currently exists, is in a company that can manage the funds for teams in a more professional way, handle the taxes, and put pressure on tourney operators to properly handle funds for teams, and represent them in a group fashion. This doesn't mean each team must use the same contract for their players, but would require it being on file, and clearly stated how the monies are handled.


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This comment was edited at 11/27/2005 9:45 AM
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It's not that we don't like you, we hate you period.

Great event, great show, great work to all: CPL, MTV, Intel and Nvidia.

I'm glad to have played a small part of something so important.

This comment was edited at 11/27/2005 5:34 PM
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Did anyone record it? I missed it.
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you can watch it on mtv overdrive.
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#35 MadMax

This was not just "some exposure on MTV," but the first real joint-venture between a television channel and an esports organization in the USA. This partnership is a real landmark and I believe will be mentioned for years as a propulsion point for the sport.

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The only money issues that I have heard about online have:

1. Nothing to do with CPL.
2. Include third parties that appropriated the funds.

Using the term "screw" when referring to our terms and conditions agreement is unnecessarily harsh. Maybe instead you could inquire about why the policies are there to begin with, and how they've been applied over the past eight years.

Also if you are insinuating that someone has not received a check from CPL, you need to make sure that person sent the required tax paperwork and has been in touch with Frank Nuccio. As all checks for all USA tournaments this year have been mailed.

This comment was edited at 11/28/2005 3:16 PM
Angel Munoz
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I admire and totaly agree with the analogy that Angel used in his last post. I think this is a huge step forward for the eSports world, not to mention a great perk and addition to the Cyberathlete Professional League. In my honest opinion, I believe this will attract an exponential interest in this still emerging "sport", using the word sport in quotations to symbolize that it has not yet been recognized nationaly as worthy of the term (or so say the masses).

I believe that many major factors such as a well organized and professionaly run league, professionaly managed and sponsored teams, and more recently media coverage by well known names (CNN, ESPN, MTV), is exactly what the esports world needs to become nationaly recognized. However, I also believe as of now that the major downfall to the sport and impeding factor to national recognition is the lack of a way for the common public to spectate and easily understand these matches and tournaments that are for such high stakes. I believe the next step is somehow presenting these tournament matches in a new way, simply HLTV for counter-strike, which is my main concern, wont cut it as the esports world rappidly expands. HLTV only goes so far.

Companies that are gaining interest in the community for major sponsorships (aka money) cannot depend on our somewhat unorthodox way of spectating large matches to understand just what we do. Most current sponsorships were (and are still) gained by team managers approaching them with professional presentations, containing not footage, but statistics and live attendences where the company or the company's products will be advertised. They are not concerned with footage because it is not yet an applicable way to tell yet whether or not the team is worthy of the sponsorship. Simply put, sponsors cant make heads or tales of what they mean in our current way of presenting the skill, or what skill in our terms and world mean to small detail. Skill in Sports like football, or better yet golf, are more easily distinguishable to sponsors than skill in (Again) our current way of presenting esports. Granted, this only applies to a few types of sponsorships, and not the ones that are in it for the lan advertisement targeting the attendees, but the addition of a better way to spectate would only benifit the community and help its recognition.

So then one may ask the quesion, "What do we do then to present these matches better to the world in games like counter-strike?" which is again my main focus. All i can say in terms of what the CPL decides to do is that I hope MTV in assosciation with the CPL can come up with a new and dynamic way of displaying counter-strike to the public.

Anyway, thinking about this brought about some brainstorms and ideas that I would like to see in the future with the spectating of esports. I think more vishual coverage, i.e. seeing these matches while comentated at the same time will definiatly help. Another is at lan tournaments the way (and this is where the CPL administration and management comes in) that they are spectated. An Idea I had was setting up for final matches, in otherwords matches that are of great interest to the community like a match between Complexity and Team 3D, could be spectated with the two teams opposite eachother in view of the spectators while the spectator sits on chairs or small rising bleacher stands.

Between the two teams could be a large canvas where an overview of the map is projected, displaying current positions of the teams. In addition, there could be a line of several medium sized tvs, both stacked or lined up horizontaly on either side next to the teams (better representing the 2 opposing sides) displaying each players screen in first person so that spectators can easily select and look to different players as the match progresses. Under the screens could be the players name, so that each spectator can easily distinguish who is who. I believe somthing similar to this, and not just one screen, is the next step to spectating this sport. It may be somthing that has never been done before, but it could just be the dynamic setup the sport needs to excell to the next step with live championship lans.

I hope you enjoyed the read and kudos to CPL for the addition. This took a while to write so please, if you havent read it, take the time to read it and think about it. I believe it is total relivant to the recent progress we have seen. If I havent explained somthing clearly enough, please comment about it and I will try to better explain what I mean.

Thanks guys,
Mike

This comment was edited at 11/28/2005 9:01 PM
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WOW, THAT IS TYPICAL MTV, MORE TERRIBLE PROGRAMMING

This was the dumbest thing i have ever watched on the Television

2 seconds of painkiller footage total, and basically listening to that retard announcer talk wow, terrible

if they want to spread gaming, show the damn game
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I love how the intensity showed. They showed Vo0's angry face, though. Scary :-[
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#42 Mike - Excellent post and some real good ideas.

Thanks.

-Angel, CPL
Angel Munoz
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cant wait
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rofl i missed it.
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this could be good
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