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All Games: coL, wNv, NiP all look to ESWC seeds

By: Trevor Schmidt - Published June 25, 2006 at 9:01 AM EDT - Writer Archive
Midway takes a look at the importance of having a good seed in making it to the latter rounds of ESWC.


ESWC looms on the horizon, and anyone trying to figure out who will win should first consider who the contenders will have to play. It’s not as easy as the CPL; there are no brackets. It’s all about the top and high seeds.

Anyone who has watched the World Cup for Football (or Soccer for Americans) will realize how important top and high seeds are for group play. Without a top or high seed, you often get stuck in tough groups. Let’s take a look at some quick facts about how teams have done with top or high seeds.

First, high seeds have also been referred to as “Mid-level” seeds (in 2005) due to ESWC’s inclusion of a third group. For this article I’ll just refer to the top group as “top seeds” and the second group as “high seeds.” Top seeds are 68-8-1 in the last two ESWC events - 2004-2005 - during the first group stage. High Seeds are 57-19-1 in their first group stage.

The second group stage saw some interesting results, as top seeds went 15-16-8, while high seeds went 18-16-4. This trend of high seeds doing better carried over to the single elimination playoff stage, too, where top seeds only managed a record of 4-6, with only seven of the 16 teams advancing to the playoffs. Three of the four wins came from 2004 champion The Titans, and of the other six teams that made the quarterfinals, only Lunatic.Hai managed a victory.

The high seeds have had a much better track record in the playoff rounds. Their record is an impressive 10-6, including three teams that made the finals, with Complexity winning in 2005 while SK.dk and spiXel made the championship match the previous year.

Want to bet on a winner? Consider the second level teams.

Beyond top and high seeds, only seven of 61 other teams have made it to the second round of group play. In 2004 that list consisted of Factory, act, IncTa, and Homelan. In 2005 there were only three teams in this category: wNv.gm, Abitstrike, and a-Losers. Of those seven teams, none of the 2004 teams made the playoff stage of competition, while both wNv.gm and a-Losers from ESWC 2005 both lost their first round game in the quarterfinals.

Let’s take a look at the top and high seed positions for ESWC 2006.



ESWC 2006 Seeds with Analysis

Top-seed Pool:

Germany ALTERNATE aTTaX - This is a well deserved spot, as this team is really under-appreciated right now in the CS scene.

United States compLexity - Obviously the defending Champion earned a top seed, but they also have backed it up with solid performances.

South Korea Lunatic Hai - Their 2nd place finish at CPL, along with a quarterfinals appearance at the last ESWC, gives them this spot.

Sweden Ninjas in Pyjamas - While they don’t have the achievements this year, they have the roster at the top qualifier from Sweden, which merits a top seed.

Denmark Spirit of Amiga - I think they are a little overrated here, but Denmark has the history with a 1st place and a 2nd place finish at the last two ESWC events.

United States Team 3D - The top American qualifier probably deserves this spot, but there’s a lot of evidence to suggest their play beyond WCG may not warrant it.

China wNv.Gaming - This is a no-brainer as wNv is the top team in the world, following a pair of WEG championships, as well as a quarterfinals appearance in the last ESWC.

Russia Virtus.Pro - I think this might be an over-estimation for this team. They looked great at WEG but didn’t make it out of group play, and they choked last year at ESWC in the second group stage.

High-seed Pool:

Finland Astralis - I’m glad ESWC finally woke up and stopped putting this team as a top seed. At the last two ESWC events, they have been top seeds and have yet to make it to the playoff stage; they need to earn that spot.

Canada Evil Geniuses - While Canadians may feel they deserve a top spot, let’s be honest - they aren’t nearly as good without Shag and have no accomplishments of note this year.

Sweden Fnatic - I felt this team had the talent to deserve a top spot and maybe should be where Virtus.Pro is. Also, if you thinking that Sweden shouldn’t get two top seeds, think again as they have had two top seeds before.

United Kingdom Four Kings - This spot is deserved, as this team has way too many question marks to go any higher in the seed pools.

France JaS.Webone - I truly saw this one coming; it’s a French event and shouldn’t be a surprise.

Brazil Made in Brazil - They have yet to prove they really deserve to be a top seed, so this is a good spot for now.

Germany mTw - This spot makes sense and the German teams are stacked; mTw knocked out a good Mouz team and I expect the Germans to do well in Paris.

Spain x6tence.AMD - I actually expected this as well; Spain should field a top team.
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go eg :)

Nice write up.I don't feel SoA should be a top seeding.A team like fnatic,mibr or EG would of been a better choice then them.
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right analysis so far! gj

i also think that virtus and soa don't merit a top seed :> fnatic should
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agreed #3
good read too
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great read but i have to agree with #3
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wow midway, you're the best, nice read <3<3

edit: go wNv <3<3

This comment was edited at 06/25/2006 9:17 AM
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EG top? lol i know you are canadians and supporting them but you should be realistic...
H2k.Aftermath should be high-seed instead of mTw and mibr top instead of SoA
the french team is probably the less known in this list, but i think they're better than goodgame was last year

This comment was edited at 06/25/2006 9:20 AM
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Mouz is very, very weak at the moment so mtw/attax beating them means nothing. Look at attax' performance at Dreamhack where they got trashed by fnatic/mibr. Both german teams won't make it far in this tournament.
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Mouz is very, very weak at the moment so mtw/attax beating them means nothing. Look at attax' performance at Dreamhack where they got trashed by fnatic/mibr. Both german teams won't make it far in this tournament.
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So ESWC will allow one nation to have two top-seeds that came from the SAME qualifier, the winner and runner-up? Honestly, that's pretty dumb. It detracts from the whole "world cup" aspect, and it makes the winner and runner-up distinction meaningless. Perhaps this year they wised up by putting fnatic in the high-seed pool.

I also wonder if the year the article refers to Sweden having two top-seeds from the same qualifier, if one of those Swedish teams wasn't entirely Swedish (two or three on the roster), but only qualified at the Swedish qualifier. I could see that being a mitigating factor if perhaps for that year's tourney, the selection of legitimate-seeming top-seeds was kind of sparse.

This comment was edited at 06/25/2006 9:28 AM
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Virtus.Pro - I think this might be overrated for this team. They looked great at WEG but didn’t make it out of group play and they choked last year at ESWC in the second group stage.

lol, but i agree :D
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SoA probably got their seed because of their performance as Clan-IT. In a way it is the same group of players, moving around between different organisations and losing a few players on the way, but I do believe that it is fair to see them as the same team as IT.

I'm not a huge fan of fnatic, but they should be top seeded in place of 3d or Virtus.
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fnatic and mibr >>>>>>>>> attax?
got stupidity?
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Fnatic > attax 16-5 on LAN.
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I don't think 3D should be a top seed either, surprised nobody mentioned that in comments.
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trust me virtus.pro will play very well @ eswc 2006. but i also think fnatic should be top seed instead of SoA but the seeds are based on past results of countries (the titans won eswc so nr1 denmark = topseed)
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#16 it was 16-2
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fzer0 ftw :D
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nip or col wins, wnv is under to mutch pressure to win again
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Virtus.pro will own at eswc. they're the #4 team at weg masters by stats. better than Catch gamer. Dont forget, they beat hacker.pk 2:1 at weg.

This comment was edited at 06/25/2006 10:32 AM
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I think NiP can take it out, they are playing really well as a team lately.

MiBR shouldnt be top seed they are overrated.

fnatic should.

SoA shouldnt.
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SoA and 3D in top-seed and fnatic in high-seed ? WTF those french dont know **** about cs

attax isnt even good on LAN like it has been showed the past weekend at the wsvg
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all you idiots have no idea how they seed teams so plz STOP TALKING

compLexity - Obviously the defending Champion earned a top seed but they also have backed it up with solid performances

Ninjas in Pyjamas - While they don’t have the achievements this year they have the roster at the top qualifier from Sweden which merits a top seed.

and you got these mixed up complexity has no solid performances this year while nip has be preforming great since after last years eswc, and complexity has done nothing but put up less than expected finishes

This comment was edited at 06/25/2006 10:59 AM
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SoA and Virtus are overrated
fnatic and mibr should be top seed
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I think that fnatic should definitely have been in the top seed. Everything else I can pretty much agree with.

By the way tr1p looks like he just got beatup in that picture, lol.
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whatever.
for wNv,they need the champion of ESWC to prove that they are NO.1
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go 3D, they have some momentum after winning lanwar
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#25 You are right about Complexity, even a 2nd place finish at WEG or any other event is a "less than expected finish". I think that's WHY they are a Top Seed (despite being the returning ESWC champions AND being ranked the #2 team in the world and #1 team in the United States....
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#31 its not about complexity being ranked a top seed.....they won the last eswc they obviously get that. its just how he kinda overlooks the fact of wsvg dreamhack(1st), eswc.swe(1st), cplwinter(4th), weg3(4th) . but coL has good recent performaces wsvg lanwar(3rd),wegmasters(2nd),cplwinter(9-12th)


oh and the only reason nip has a top seed is "they have the roster at the top qualifier from Sweden which merits a top seed."

and attax is so overrated right now "in the cs scene" READ YOUR OWN FORUMS MIDWAY

This comment was edited at 06/25/2006 12:07 PM
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enjoyable read ta :D
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"NIP - While they don’t have the achievements this year they have the roster at the top qualifier from Sweden which merits a top seed."

are you serious?



"ALTERNATE aTTaX - This is a well deserved spot as this team is really under appreciated right now in the CS scene."

They are so overrated right now and they havn't done anything to deserved that high seed, mibr should replace them but w/e

This comment was edited at 06/25/2006 12:07 PM
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World Cup for Football (or Soccer for Americans)

THANK you
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coL is definatly not number 2 in the world ahahah
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I miss TSG :(
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"Germany ALTERNATE aTTaX - This is a well deserved spot as this team is really under appreciated right now in the CS scene."

Too bad attax is the most overrated team right now, getting totally destroyed on lan @ DH.
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#38 shhhh, at least i dont see an team from holland on that list.
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why did you flip the picture anyway?
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gl to lunatic hai
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#38 attax aint overrated moron they beat catch-gamer 16:3

did catch-gamer beat SK.swe 16:0 at WEG ?

now whos overrated tard?

besides look at the finish wsvg lan results attax placed top5 besides many top teams

1. NiP
2. fnatic
3. Check-Six
4. mibr
5. attax
6-7. Aftermath
7-8. Catch Gamer
7-8. Serious Gaming
9-12. Lehnitz
9-12. mYm
9-12. Raw Gaming
9-12. SK Gaming


keep hating german teams, you dont even have 2 good teams in holland.
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TSG , for teh_win
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EG will suprise and I know it will happen. EG's accomplishments with shaGuar were somewhat impressive, but by no means came solely because of him. shaGuar is an overrated player. Right now their lineup is absolutely great with stevenson, lin, da bears, lari, blackpanther. EG has always been one of my favorite teams so this is somewhat biased. However, I think they will definetly show people that they're a great team. EG is always and I mean ALWAYS better on LAN. Watch for them to disappoint a top seed.
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aint hating german, is just that germans teams arent the powerhouses they used 2 be

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Nice read I guess. Go wNv, 3D and NiP :)
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#43

uh yes but checksix.swe and mibr beat Catch-gamer with ease.


btw, how is winning ESWC sweden + WSVG Dreamhack the same weekend having no achievements? That's just retarded. Why is the big sites hatin on NiP so much?

This comment was edited at 06/25/2006 1:22 PM
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nice analysis

People don't usually look into this kind of details

Midway just looooves numbers and statistics ^^

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