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The latest patch for Counter-Strike 1.6 comes under heavy criticism from the community. It appears in an attempt to fix what many consider a bug, and has been a problem in some well known competitions over the last couple of years; silent crouch hopping, sound has been given to any jump motion. This would make a significant change to established competitive gameplay as many players and teams utilize the secrecy of silence during gameplay. The problem lies within these few words in the official announcement of the update... April 20, 2009, 4:06 pm - Valve - Product Update GotFrag spoke with a few well known pro players, managers and community members about the update and what it means for competitive Counter Strike.   Pro Player "If adding the jumping noise was the only way to fix crouch hopping then I'm OK with it. Obviously they need to fix the crashing sound loop bug. But if they can do away with the noise when you jump and the noise when you go up ladders slowly and still keep the crouch hopping fix then I think valve would be foolish to not remove the additional sound triggers."  Owner/Manager Team EG "I think that any potential positives that have come via fixing the exploit (if you're even of the opinion that it needed to be fixed in the first place) have been easily outweighed by the bugginess that came along with the "fix." We now have movement sounds being made and heard in situations that are completely absurd from a competitive standpoint."  Pro Player "I think despite making the game slower, removing duckhopping is a good thing because in the long run it'll make CS less random especially at LANs where you almost never had to walk for the last year. The jump sound is a little annoying and will take time to get used to, but I don't think it's as big deal as people make it out to be; everyone will just adapt anyways. The only real problem with the update is the crashes, which is going to definitely cause some problems in the CEVO playoffs, as I doubt Valve will fix that in time."  eSports Journalist "It seems strange for Valve to come and patch something out of the blue like this, when it really wasn't a game breaking issue to Counter-Strike as a whole. The change constricts the competitive game-play massively, and strategies will have to be re-worked if not completely scrapped as a whole now." "Looking at the overall picture though, people are likely to get over it and move on. The community has moved past much bigger changes multiple times in the past. The community may forget the older days before the slowdown after jumping which was brought in to combat bunny hopping (in-effectively) and it's not something they just take as part of Counter-Strike, and the loss of silent jumping/boosting will likely have a similar history." "I don't believe it's all bad though. Every great era of Counter-Strike had a huge, game changing event that really spurred it's evolution. A great example of this was the update to the money system that had completely changed the pacing of competitive Counter-Strike. Hopefully this gameplay change will be used to help redefine Counter-Strike yet again, and shakeup the old faithful strategies and styles that teams have been leaning on for so long, in order to bring on yet another new evolution of the competition and gameplay styles." What do YOU think? Do the changes spell out a new phase of counter-strike gameplay history? Or are these claims merely a product of hype coming in the immediate wake of the announcements? What do you see becoming of competitive CS as a result of the update? |
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User Comments
i just hate how my game crashes all duh time WTF?!?!?
I still think that the update was a bad idea. I don't mind if they somehow fix the crouch hopping, but I totally disagree with the jump sound. I've played in pubs before where if you try and crouch hop you immediately stop moving. Why doesn't valve just do something like that?
Ridiculous...just ridiculous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQXxvR9Ljeo
WHAT PEOPLE CHEAT IN THAT TOO? Update your client, stop making patches.
( u c wut i did there? )
The patch is a failure all around : /
Sorry i don't know the correct therms for certain spot in CS USA, i hope im right.
Here is what some Euros think about the new update.
The dsn quote is translated from swedish
With the new update he only needs to watch the doubledoors
#14 it makes like some kind of fu_cked up noise to like your having a seizure or something!
On inferno and you're a CT. They plant in default spot in A. You KNOW the last T is in the halls so you fake defuse, jump up on the bomb to get on the box and wait for him to peak. But you're able to out shoot him because you have a secret advantage on the height and angle.
I did this last night and lost because he knew I was off. Theres a better example.
I first played Half Life in 1999. The first version of CS I played was Beta 7 and I've been playing competitively since 2004. I remember when the slow down after jumping was introduced and it was a major update at the time. The game was Quake-like before that you could bhop everywhere just by holding forward and tapping the space bar. The community adapted and the game moved on and strengthened. It is a "realism" mod after all.
I'm all for removing silent running. This crash bug is killing the game (is that what Valve want?). Every scrim I've been in since it came out has players dropping every 2nd round. Money is getting screwed. In a round last night 2/3 of the way into the 1st half a team we were vsing lost 3 players at once. The jumping sound is annoying and I've had to adapt my gameplay significantly. It's annoying me because to me it doesn't seem realistic. When I jump irl, I don't stamp my feet, but I make a noise when I land.
This Half-Life and more so Counter-Strike have made Valve what they are today. I feel they don’t give this game enough support. I thought the introduction of the advertising in-game would bring a new stream of income in for Counter-Strike and therefore we should see some active support and development but all we’ve seen so far is this buggy and unrealistic patch. It will be WoW and Quake for me until the game is fixed if ever. I’ll never play CS:S. It was a failure as a competitive game. Valve need to move on from it already.
[-]April 22, 2009 - Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Released
Updates to Counter-Strike 1.6 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:
Counter-Strike 1.6
Fix the wrong sounds being played on jump when moving to different surfaces
Fixed crash in the spectator UI when hitting tab
Just restart steam or cs
Fix the wrong sounds being played on jump when moving to different surfaces
Fixed crash in the spectator UI when hitting tab
Way to go Valve, please try to kill the best FPS of all time.
They don't give any suport in the comunity with tournaments o something, and make this shit? Is obviusly.
They HATE CS 1.6.
^_^
Another genius move by Valve!
And if people think the voice of a few pro´s are equal, the pro´s made this game what it is. And if the pro clans stop supporting 1.6 then it will die faster than frozen yogurt in the sun.
Complaining about crouch running is the same as complaining about awp users.
L2P.
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