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Starcraft: Was the grand final staged?

By: Lucas Bigham - Published October 24, 2007 at 4:42 PM EDT - Writer Archive
At the International E-Sports Festival in China, both of the competitors in the Starcraft Grand Final have been questioned regarding some controversial typed messages in-game.


In recent weeks we have observed some of the best in the world traveling far away from their native homelands to test their skills against others from around the world. Some arrive confident and focused on the matches ahead of them while others seem nervous and tired after the long hours of preparation. The lights, screaming fans, and thousands of dollars in prize money up for grabs can be overwhelming for any inexperienced competitor.

Earlier this month one of the largest and most prestigious events in all of e-sports took place, the World Cyber Games. This was an event that left a majority of the attendees with very mixed feelings about the maturity level of e-sports as a whole. The controversy that occurred in both the Counterstrike and Starcraft tournaments was about enough to make any avid online gamer shake their head in disbelief.

With the World Cyber Games in the back of most of our minds, we could now focus on another major event on a different continent. The International E-sports Festival, held in China, invited some of the best Starcraft players in the world. Several of the invited players would finally have the opportunity to redeem themselves after the World Cyber Games…or so they thought.

The strong play of the Korean representatives was just too much for every other competitor. All three of them were able to each secure their own spot on the podium.

Throwing matches yet again?

In what seems to be the norm at these large events, the professional gamers have yet again been accused of throwing matches. However, this time they would not be throwing matches against the non-Koreans, but their own teammates.

In the final match between Young Soo "HwaSin[S.sIR]" Jin and Yoon Hwan "InteR.Calm" Kim both players exchanged wins and loses until a winner was finally named. Shortly after the tournament ended, the First Person VODs were released. After reviewing these VODs you could see both of the competitors whispering each other in-game.


“dae choong 2sunken no ring”
If you look closely at the text in the chat screen you can decipher a message from Jin stating, “dae choong 2sunken no ring” which is believed to be translated to “2 sunken no zergling”. In another incident Kim states, “center barrack ok me 12 pool?" If you are unfamiliar with Starcraft lingo this is thought to be Kim telling Jin to put his barrack in the center of the map while he builds his spawning pool with his 12th drone. When building a barrack at the center of the map meant to produce marines, you as a Terran player are hoping that your Zerg opponent builds a spawning pool with his 12th drone instead of his 9th. Coincidentally, Kim (Zerg) builds his pool with his 12th drone.

A big misunderstanding?

After reviewing the in-game chat it seems very possible that the final matches in the series were arranged. In response to these accusations, the two parties and their coach have all released statements denying that any type of match fixing took place. These quotes, originally documented by FighterForum have been translated to English by HonestTea of TeamLiquid.

"It was a mind trick, I was saying that even if I play like that I could still win, it was a taunt. I didn't expect it to cause this kind of misunderstanding." Yoon Hwan Kim states.

Young Soo Jin replies with his own response to these accusations.

"I played along with his messages but chat like that happens every game [during practice]. The one thing I didn't want was for the games to go long. So I attacked early with the thought that, if it works great, if not, then Calm wins so great."

Their coach, Eun Dong Kim was also given the opportunity to make his thoughts public on this matter.

"Why would we fix a match when it doesn't matter who wins? I don't know where this controversy came from. What happened was two teammates with little experience playing in overseas tournaments were playing light-heartedly."

Perhaps they are all telling the truth and this has been all blown out of proportion. It is possible that the private messaging in-game might have been nothing more than casual chat between two friends and practice partners. These two teenagers who flew in from overseas and were able to take a tournament by storm deserve a hefty congratulations.

OR...

Have the egos of the professionals gotten this big? Is it not an honor to represent your country overseas? Can an event involving Starcraft outside of South Korea ever be taken seriously? If both of these players did purposely fix their games in the finals, they succeeded in making a mockery of a tournament meant to bring some of the best in Starcraft to one location for healthy competition. They have disrespected all of the fans in China that came out to see them play, the tournament organizers, competitors, and sponsors, who made this event, happen.

User Comments


Not really that big of a deal. I agree with the manager. It was a light-hearted game between teammates. So they didn't play a "greatest of all time" match; it's their choice to do it.
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ever heard of nascar or the tour de france? in both of those there are teams and the team helps one person in it to succeed. instead of the whole team trying to get first they put one person in great position to win while the others just do their best to help that person.

and also on a sidenote, they do have a point, they're both from the same team who cares who wins and who cares if they staged it. its not like they bet money on it on the side or anything, they just didnt care who won.

this article was way too dramatic and like #1 said its not really a big deal

This comment was edited at 10/24/2007 4:51 PM
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pretty nice read :P
jg4i - just go for it
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why would they rig a game like that. I agree with them saying that it was just lighthearted chatter in game.

why even look into this, it's not like it drastically changes who won the tournament.
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loved this read, agree partly with #2, but this would still be VERY bad for esports, its just not the kind of thing you do?

MAYBE YOU SHOULD EDIT IN THE FACT THAT KOREAN TEAMMATES SPLIT THE WINNINGS NO MATTER WHO WINS.
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If they both had to win every match to get to the grand final anyway, and they were on the same team...

Who really cares if they wanted to fix the match? And more importantly why would they want to? They're on the same team so either way they win.
#quakelive (quakelive.com)

#6 I didn't know that. It truly didn't matter who won because they were on the same team. If it had been two different countrys competing against each other then I think it would have been a big deal.
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I might actually believe some of that crap if there was an actual motive for staging the final. What reason would they have for staging it? And #2 nascar is a bad example, there are other racers on the track, the teammates help block them and take them out of the race. This is a 1v1 situation.

Seems to me like a bit of in-game banter has been thrown out of proportion.
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reminds me of when in san fran A2 "won" because a SumaGO player threw the game which ensured GO having a player in each side of the brackets + then they took #1 and #2
How does it feel?
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Wow I care. Really.
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From my perspective it's friendly banter, it's the equivalent of Counter-Strike players taunting the other team, "Hey, guys, we're rushing B. Watch out." and the other team replies, "Oh really? Guess we'll stack B then." Will the first team actually rush B? Maybe, maybe not. It doesn't matter.

And even if it is true, it still doesn't really matter. They're both on the same team, why would they care who wins? Especially because they split the pot. One guy could have been AFK for the finals, taking a crap, and telling the match to start anyway and it wouldn't have been a difference.

Don't be so quick to jump at the fact that there is a controversy just because they're Korean. Other countries have had their fair share of misdemeanors in international competition. It is not exclusive to Korea.
hiya
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It is all subjective and speculation. Only few people know the truth and only thing you can do is take their word for it at this point.
Go Read a Book =)
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This is why I don't bet on E-sports games.
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i would agree with the coach, whats the big deal?

the two teammates tore everyone else apart to even get themselves in the finals. i'm not sure how that would be a mockery to the tournament organizers even if they did arrange a winner. they earned top 2 fair and square.

what would be a mockery is if one just flat out laid down for the other.

or maybe they didn't want to give away their most ultimate strategy that they were saving only for the finals. and now that his practice partner was his opponent, he doesn't want to show the world and competitive SC community a new strat and he saving it for another event.

either way i think they deserve top 2 and there is no controversy
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. Mark Twain
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Watch out Lucas, looks like you know to much.
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stupid koreans.
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You don't rig matches no matter what sport you play. Baseball players receive lifetime bans on the evidence of rigging matches. Steroid users and other types of cheaters (pine tar) are just pushed under the rug. Rigging is a BIG deal and to put it bluntly, you're an idiot if you think otherwise.

The NASCAR and Tour de France analogy is totally bogus. If the top 2 finishers in the Nextel cup were from the same team, you sure as hell bet they'd each go all out to win and not throw the cup away to their teammate, or they'd have a couple million angry rednecks on their tail.

EDIT: The evidence and motives can be debated back and forth and it'll probably never be settled. Still, it's amazing to see so many of you think rigging is "ok" between two teamates when $30,000 is on the line and 10,000+ fans and sponsors have paid to see you play. Have you ever competed in anything in your life?

This comment was edited at 10/24/2007 6:25 PM
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I agree with what a lot of people have said that I don't see why it should be "staged" and also on the point that the comment in game was probably more of a tease between friends than it was making a deal. BUT I totally agree with #18, that it really would be a big matter IF the match was staged, obviously not because of the money, but because of the fans, the other players, the sponsors and the people behind the event - it just isn't fair to make a big no-care thing out of a huge final like that and actually it doesn't matter if its staged or if one or both of the players just aren't trying so hard, it's a huge final and if you p*ss on it by not taking it seriously, then you should have just stayed home.

I haven't seen the match and don't know if it was well played, but if it was then I don't think anything bad has happened - in game teasing as a mind trick is not being unserious in my opinion, in fact it might just be the exact opposite.
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i believe stork lost to white ra on propouse

#18 wins
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#18 doesnt win.

From what I have read, some of your pointers for your arguement are flawed. the money on the line from what i read is split so rigging it wouldnt accomplish anything, in the near or long term.

And you make the statement. Haveyou competed in anything in your life?

well maybe none of us have and maybe we have. whats your point either way? It doesnt prove anything.

And lastly, you cannot prove it was rigged but you speak like its a known fact that the game was rigged. At any rate, you cant prove anything like everyone else yet you spout stuff like its fact.

This comment was edited at 10/24/2007 7:04 PM
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#22 wins
Creator of [= ]=
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I don't really know what to believe anymore... :\

Good read though, maybe a little bit too dramatic.

E-drama...
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hmm i agree with the coaches as well
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#23 ye he does
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who cares, starcraft is older than my dad...
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#22
I didn't say they rigged it. I completely stayed away from whether they did it or not. I simply said that rigging games in any situation is completely unethical, and it's not "ok" because they are teammates. The point of the money isn't that they should try hard to get rich, it's that it's not a silly exhibition and sponsors and fans paid good money for good games, and they pretty much just got exhibition matches (the players admitted themselves that they didn't try hard.)

I asked whether you've competed in anything because anyone that's ever cared about sports or e-sports or any kind of competition in general wants to win. They want to win for the fans, their coach and mostly for their pride. Sometimes athletes forget #1 and #2 (WRs taking plays off), but they NEVER forget about #3. Hwasin was exhausted so Calm should've beat his ass into the ground.

This comment was edited at 10/24/2007 8:01 PM
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interesting read
#united5 #soLgaming
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#18 rigged it so that #22 can win. RIG. THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT IS RIGGED!!
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Why do all asian men have similar haircuts... All look Bruce Lee inspired.

Koreans are just pissed they didn't win the CGS Pan-Asian championships... lost to us in the Semis mwuahahahaha :P
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the fact is that this entire discussion on an important matter is being wasted on a stupid game, its like discussing the genocide of millions of ants....who cares..
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yes because both players involved are chinese.
you know china isnt the only asian country...
hello
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gotfrag is becoming a drama-whore... question things instead of drawing retarded conclusions

#18 and #28 win again. and if you say someone else wins ill poke your eyes out

This comment was edited at 10/24/2007 9:21 PM
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anyone seen the last leg of the f1 championship last sunday which kimi won?
how masa let kimi get the first placing so he wins the world championship
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#39 is on #28's Saddle loooooool=)
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Wow its starcraft, no one cares EXCEPT the koreans. Anyways as stated before, only those 2 will know for sure whats going on.
Hey man, no man.
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#28

Play their hardest no matter what, really?

And that's why certain football coaches were terribly angry with the Rutgers football team because they kept on scoring points despite it being a runaway game in their favor? Because the sports community thought it was unsportsmanlike when the Patriots scored another touchdown within the last minute of the game in fourth quarter despite having a gross point margin of victory regardless if they score on that last drive or not?

Don't idealise the spirit of competition. It's sickeningly gross, and borderline naive. Yeah, it'd be great if they played it out, their hardest, in a nail-biting, awe-inspiring, tears-producing match so tense that it could have had two crappy movies made to try to capture the glory of two teammates battling it out for the gold. Point is, it doesn't matter whether they did or not. But in an area of competition that is becoming BUSINESS-LIKE to the players. Don't fault them for treating it like a BUSINESS. Baseball players do it, football players do it. Every salaried competitor will inadvertently do it.

I don't care about the glory days of competition you're re-living from high school football, debate team, whatever you did. But seriously, get over it. People don't try their hardest when they don't see a reason to. It's a fact of life. His training partner, his teammate, who is most likely a friend as well climbed to the grand finals with him by beating out the other competition. Don't fault them for light-hearted fun, games tossed or not.

Making a whole deal out of nothing, jesus christ.
hiya

The coaches logic makes sense to me.
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Gotfrag is becoming the FOXnews of America. I understand you need to have more articles on your website, but when it is stated at the end that they are both on the same team, does it even matter?
Ganbatte yo!
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Taking it light hearted is completely different. Obviously everyone does it all the time in real life because you usually don't need to try your hardest to get by, but that's hardly the same thing as both players blowing off a grand finals and certainly not close to rigging one.

My guess is both players took it easy on the way to the finals, because they didn't need to try very much and that's fine. Most of the time it works, sometimes it doesn't (WCG) and that's the risk they take. You should play however you feel is necessary to win. In the finals they didn't do that, they both half assed it and that's pretty lame for all the people that came to be entertained. If you pay playoff ticket price to see the Pistons and Spurs in the finals, you damn better get a playoff game instead of preseason garbage. I agree that it's generally bullshit to idealize effort, but not in a staged finals and it's definitely not bullshit to idealize trying to win. I don't know a single person that doesn't mind losing, except apparently Calm.

Lucas also left out that Hwasin got into the finals with the use of a game winning exploit that's banned in all Korean leagues as well. No clue why he didn't take a forfeit for that. The players obviously don't respect foreign tournaments and the simple solution is just to not invite those two anymore. The money would probably be more beneficial anyways in the hands of Chinese pros who need everything they can get to make e-Sports grow in China.
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#34, they are koreans i think, by their last names.
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#34 just can't read very well...

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