First of all i want to say hi because i'm new to the forum. I would like to know if someone can give me some tips when playing with the orcish race (like wich hero picking first, second and third, wich units to mass produce, wich buildings to make and so on...). Another question: I read (correct me if im wrong) that undead are very effective against undead, is the oricsh race effective against another race?? regards, aero.
1)at First U Must Say u U Want to play which Race(orc vs ...?) 2)BM(blade master) one of the best heroes in wc3 and for first hero is very nice!!i dont say anythings!!i sad :| U must say ORC vs ...?
BM is fun, but in 1v1 it really only works against NE or in an Orc mirror. Go with the far seer in almost every other situation. Typically followed by a TC. As far as UD being effective against UD.....right.....
If you mean orc vs. ud, then yes, in 1v1 orc is very effective against UD. But the thing is UD is the weakest solo race so every race is effective against it.
As far as units, grunts first, get raiders in tier 2, breakers, kodos, tauren. Buildings; barracks, VOODOO LOUNGE, beastiary, spirit lodge, tauren totem. Basically every building u have.
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ORC vs Undead ORC have 2 Starts but U Must learn First ;) 4 peon at gold mine 1 peon for build altar of storm 1st peon for build burrow 2nd peon for build barrack 3rd peon for gold mine 4th & 5 & 6 for lumber altar of storm & burrow & barrack also go to lumber when u have 40 lumber & 180 gold U Must Build 2nd burrow!! when U have 200 gold pick 1st grunt
Heroes :
fst hero u can play by BM it`s very Nice !!!but i say in big map U can pick far seer!!!But always orc players pick BM for first hero and chieften for next hero and give stun magic!!
1)BM+shadow hunter(give hex magic for first ) 2)BM+chieften(give stun magic for first )
when u pick first grunt u cant pick 2nd because your barrow is not complete and u can build shop!!! always orc players give 4 or 5 grunt and when u have 190 lumber and i thnk 305 gold :D upgrade tire 1 UD have 2 strategy with ghoul.if u see dread lord maybe UD rush with ghoul and UD Can pick Death knight for next strategy always UD vs orc!! UD pick DK for first hero and go for fiend!! when your tier 2 is complete build barrack for pick raider and when u have 400 or 500 gold if u build two barrack for pick raiders it`s nice u Must dont allow UD go for tier 3 :(( and when UD pick obsidion if u havent battrider it`s very bad maybe u lost!!! and at finally i must say if UD have abonmation U have some choises!!i say kodo it`s very nice ;)
don't listen to #5 blademaster always works. Anytime oyu see an archmage or a deathknight, they will run away from your bm. if you play undead you usually go tauren chieftain second with aura and stomp against ghouls/fiends. To counter gargoyles you need bats. Against human dunno probably shadowhunter second to heal hero and raiders while kicking towers and blademaster+ensnare+hex=enemy hero down. nightelf usually play mass talons so there you get bm+tc(with wave) very effective and spirit walkers to cancel cyclone
#8 im a helluva lot better than u at this game, and BM does NOT always work in 1v1. Against UD he is weak because they can mass too many units for him to deal with, thats where CL and wolves come in on the FS. And human always just has tons of crap and mass loads of water elementals, plus towers that prevent too much of an early harass
#10 if you scout and contain the enemy there is no way he can out unit you, as your tier one unit counters theirs (unless they go guls) and the blademaster is very strong vs undead and able to avoid nuke way easier then a fser. So he is correct, id choose the BM over the FSr vs UD, as well as human.
infact i would negate your arguement and say that FSr is the hero to choose vs elf, for the reason that you avoid facing a mass dott strategy (if this is your weakness). Where as fsr vs ud is just asking to get mass destrod, and vs human it is okay if you are able to get a TC and your FS to level 3, however you usually get towered if you get a farseer so getting your TC to level 3 may be tricky.
the farseer is a harassing unit, not a cc unit. If you are power creeping as an orc it is garunteed that you are getting out creeped by every other race.
"#8 im a helluva lot better than u at this game, and BM does NOT always work in 1v1. Against UD he is weak because they can mass too many units for him to deal with"
kid you're a baddie, bm is the standard first hero vs ud
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1)at First U Must Say u U Want to play which Race(orc vs ...?)
2)BM(blade master) one of the best heroes in wc3 and for first hero is very nice!!i dont say anythings!!i sad :| U must say ORC vs ...?
If you mean orc vs. ud, then yes, in 1v1 orc is very effective against UD. But the thing is UD is the weakest solo race so every race is effective against it.
As far as units, grunts first, get raiders in tier 2, breakers, kodos, tauren. Buildings; barracks, VOODOO LOUNGE, beastiary, spirit lodge, tauren totem. Basically every building u have.
ORC vs Undead
ORC have 2 Starts but U Must learn First ;)
4 peon at gold mine
1 peon for build altar of storm
1st peon for build burrow
2nd peon for build barrack
3rd peon for gold mine
4th & 5 & 6 for lumber
altar of storm & burrow & barrack also go to lumber
when u have 40 lumber & 180 gold U Must Build 2nd burrow!!
when U have 200 gold pick 1st grunt
Heroes :
fst hero u can play by BM it`s very Nice !!!but i say in big map U can pick far seer!!!But always orc players pick BM for first hero and chieften for next hero and give stun magic!!
1)BM+shadow hunter(give hex magic for first )
2)BM+chieften(give stun magic for first )
when u pick first grunt u cant pick 2nd because your barrow is not complete and u can build shop!!!
always orc players give 4 or 5 grunt and when u have 190 lumber and i thnk 305 gold :D upgrade tire 1
UD have 2 strategy with ghoul.if u see dread lord maybe UD rush with ghoul and UD Can pick Death knight for next strategy
always UD vs orc!! UD pick DK for first hero and go for fiend!!
when your tier 2 is complete build barrack for pick raider and when u have 400 or 500 gold if u build two barrack for pick raiders it`s nice
u Must dont allow UD go for tier 3 :((
and when UD pick obsidion if u havent battrider it`s very bad maybe u lost!!!
and at finally i must say if UD have abonmation U have some choises!!i say kodo it`s very nice ;)
infact i would negate your arguement and say that FSr is the hero to choose vs elf, for the reason that you avoid facing a mass dott strategy (if this is your weakness). Where as fsr vs ud is just asking to get mass destrod, and vs human it is okay if you are able to get a TC and your FS to level 3, however you usually get towered if you get a farseer so getting your TC to level 3 may be tricky.
the farseer is a harassing unit, not a cc unit. If you are power creeping as an orc it is garunteed that you are getting out creeped by every other race.
kid you're a baddie, bm is the standard first hero vs ud
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